Naveed
The current attack at Data Darbar and target killings in Karachi, who are responsible for that. According to my opinion Rehman Malik is playing a key role to create this type of uncertainty. What u think?
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Current Law & Order Situation in Pakistan - Who is responsible
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Naveed ∙ 5 Jul, 10
One thing I am sure about is Ahmadis cant do this type of act. I have many Ahmadi friends and I think many of us do know some ahmadis. According to my very personal observation they are peaceful people.
Naveed ∙ 5 Jul, 10
If we put blame for this attack at Data Darbar on other sections of Islam or Non Muslims like Ahmadis or Christians, then it will lead to a endless debate. Data Darbar is a place which is considered holy equally by all sections of Islam and other religions.
Naveed ∙ 5 Jul, 10
Firstly I strongly disagree that its because of sectional conflict among muslims or some religious matter. Yes there are some elements who are against other sections, but they also cant do such act at that place (Data Darbar). There are certain places in Indo Pak which are equally respectable for are religions and sections of islam.
This matter is 100% political. Why we always welcome Martial Law, just because of immature and stupid politicians. These idiots should be hanged, all current politicians including PPP and Muslim League. Just for the sake of power they can do anything.
Tahmid Islam ∙ 5 Jul, 10
because of some polluted people,the whole nation is burning....&western countries are taking the full advantage of those muslim nations.trouble.
Naveed ∙ 5 Jul, 10
Dr Saliha, sorry for late reply, I just back from work. with due respect I want to inform you;
1. I am muslim Alhamdulliah and beleive that Ahmadis are non beleivers.
2. Here is a true story, it happened to me personally;
I was living in Lahore, It was september or october 1994, me and two of my close friends went to Islamabad by car. We left Lahore early in the morning went straight to interior ministry, then to Embassy of Netherlands and at around 1 in the noon we went to Rawalpindi jail. After that we took lunch and started our journey back to lahore. At Rawat police stopped my car and throughly scan my car and all of us. I am regular traveller between Lahore and Islamabd, and it was a weird incident. Then we were stopped at Jehlum and then after crossing river Chenab. There I asked the inspector why i was stopped third time, he took a piece of paper from his pocket and told me first to interior ministry, then to embassy and than to jail.
The reason of telling this incident is that it happened 16 years back and now when technology is 1000 times improved than why not they can catch them.
3. My statement about Rehman Malik; he was the most corrupt person in FIA. I personally gave him money in the same case for which I had traveled to Islamabad that day. At that time he was posted in Lahore.
Right after Zardari came into power, whenever government found herself in some political crisis, it is witnessed that this type of incident (act of terrorism) happens.
Naveed ∙ 5 Jul, 10
There are certain places in Indo Pak which are being considered respectable by all religions. Babri Masjid was disputed since it was built. but i never heard of any kind of attack at Khawaja Nizam ud Din, Hazrat Moeen ud Din Chisti, Haji Ali and many more.
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 6 Jul, 10
Despite of my less education, i raise my spirit to contribute.
1. I have noticed that nearly all of the person above are naming " Qadyani's" as " Ahmedi ". That is outrightly erroneous. The name of the Last prophet(PBUH)is "Ahmed" at heavens.
So who are Ahmedi ?
Its the muslims who are Muhammdi, Ahmedi, Hamidi etc. etc
Designating "Qadyanis" as "Ahmedi" is dishonesty.
You people may call them "Mirzai" too.
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 6 Jul, 10
My land is facing with every type of demolishing programs imposed externally as well as internally. When ever we put responsible RAW, CIA, Black Water, any all other forces, we shouldn't forget that there are always some traitors within us.
The current wave of terrorism was raised from Gen. Musharraf government and it still persists. De-stabilizing forces are in action and the new pakistan Maps are available on Net. May Allah keep my country safe.
I agree to Mr Shahid manzoor post, that inconsistency in our policies and a lot of U-turns in our strategical decisions depicts the vulnerability of our policy makers. I remember with conviction that before SWAT operation, Core Commander Peshawar tagged " Mulla Fazal Ullah " as a Mujahid of pakistan and Islam. There were very strong relationships between all the Taliban and Govt. Later on what happened, is known to all. we ourself are not clear about our issues. These erratic changes leads to Anarchy.
I disagree to Dr. Saliha. She said " govt has to do nothing with attacks "
Its the governmental decisions that impacts the others. Nearly all of the politicians deals with the politics of " Court and Police" and when they are elected, they then deals with same kind of dirty people but at higher level. The budget of law enforcing agencies is raised upto 500 % during last four years, but the situations is now even more worse. The vehicles with black glasses are found with illegal weapons in lahore and islamabad many times but with the Orders of Interior ministry, they are released.
Dr. When you think liable " Black water " then how can't be Government. Rehman Malik is govt now, he isn't just a single person. He once announced " I will resign if anyone proof that there is any single person of back water is here at Islamabad". After somedays "Erik Prince" in his interview admitted that black water is in pakistan and also working on some projects. He even said that we were assigned the mission to kill Dr. Abdul Qadeer. Lo, when rehman malik is trying to clarify the presence of black water how can he not be with them. And when Rehman malik is with them, whole the interior ministry is with them.
Dr. Personally knowing a person isn't the measure wether a person is corrupt or not ?
I never know Quaid-e-Azam personally, yet i know he was a great person and honest. I dont know " Mansoor ul Haq" but i know he is corrupt. who not knows Rehman Malik, a person who was also engaged in a corruption case there in UN " Oil for Food " program. I believe that for every Bomb Blast, Mr rehman malik is paid.
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 6 Jul, 10
There I deviate with Mr. Naveed.
how can you say that Babri masjid is disputed. It is presumed that Babur built the mosque, based on an inscription. Although there is a detailed account of the life of Babur in the form of his diary, the pages of the relevant period are missing in the diary. But it is possible that the mosque already existed before Babur, who may only have renovated the building.
If anyone claims on anything which isn't related to him/her, that specific thing doesn't goes disputed.
India claims that Gilgit Baltistan is a disputed territory, you will also say that ?
Jews says, Al-quds is disputed ,
Christian says Masjid-e-qartaba is disputed,
Theres a long illuminating history of Muslims that they never demolished any temple of Hidus in sub-continent during peace, except the temples that were used to be the station, like SOMNAAT.
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 6 Jul, 10
ha ha ha ha ha
He must be thinking that these two devils are combined . Dr. I am again laughing nd laughing loudly
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 7 Jul, 10
Aik sher yaad aa giya
NATO ke foj say tu bach he nikli thi magar.
Ab mujhy NEEDO ke foj nay aa ghera hay.
Abb tu kuch aur bhi andhera hay.
Nasir kazmi say sorry k sath.
Sachin Varde Borkar ∙ 6 Jul, 10
Ha ha ha! Parvez musharriff. I think this is all not very serious. Mumbai bomb blasts, Twin tower attacks, Taj mahal hotel attack, attack on Mumbai main railway station, Bomb blast in london, Godhra train burning, Bio-weapon attack on America & other countries. THIS ALL happens my dear friends. BUT good people last forever and they are the survivors [I'm not saying that innocent don't die] BUT life goes on and soon we forget all this. Who is responsible? I feel the most important questions are WHY IS SOMEONE DOING THIS? WHAT MADE THEM DO THIS? & ARE WE REALLY BECOMING ADVANCED OR ARE WE GOING TO DOGS?
Naveed ∙ 6 Jul, 10
Dear Ahmad and Saliha, thanks you for such nice comments, i am agreed on some points but the issue is still there. Government is responsible. Dr. Saliha if u want to committ suicide attack, or me or any common person, it may be suicide attack, bomb blasting or robbing a bank, we will be arrested before it happens, if u dont beleive me try it. lol.
We pakistanis think that usa is creating this uncertainty and then want to take control of pakistan. its bullshit, no one will ever think about capturing or buying a sinking ship or company in loss. no one is interested in pakistan. a decade back we have a logic that to keep an eye on china usa want a base in pakistan but now more than 50% american companies have shifted their production lines to china.
so stop blaming others, just try to pinpoint the factors around us who are creating this uncertainty.
Bligger ∙ 6 Jul, 10
We are responsible, for sending incompetent people to go th parliament who are least bother and even if they are bothered they are not competent enough to deal with the situation.
Naveed ∙ 6 Jul, 10
when army comes to power we curse them then again we restore democracy and start cursing politicians. What we want????? revolution.... blood... YES
and its the only way
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 7 Jul, 10
Stroking here again.
As for suicide attacks are concerned, its really very difficult to get rid of it safely. A person who is ready to die, how can you stop him, and if anyone will try to halt, he will blow. What we can do is only to improve our secret agencies. So, if we are able to know before handed, may be we can stop him.
But, Mr naveed well said, governmental decisions and its policies alters the nation alot. Les education, higher unemployment, higher inflation all are ifted by Govt. These factors contribute to create such situation in which dirty people takes advantages.
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 7 Jul, 10
But how can i agree with you on SINKING SHIP statement ?????
Surely, no one will buy a sinking ship or a factory in loss, but this no one is only trader, businessman or any investor. Do you know Mr naveed strategical plans are always un-economical. If pakistan is a sinking ship, what is ur idea about AFG?
Then why USA roaming there ?
Nearly all of the movements, and policies at national level that include strategic position are not based on economy. still 75 % of NATO supply is through pakistan, if you want to see, then visit MM-Road here in punjab. You will see hundreds and hundreds of NATO trailers every day heading towards AFG.
K-L bill worth US$ 7.0 Billion aid is reward and payment for so many activities.
I am not only blaming Mr USA, as you can read my yesterpost.
Naveed ∙ 7 Jul, 10
I think we cant find solution to it, because we are not a nation. we should give a look to Kyrgyzstan....
Ahmed Hamza ∙ 9 Jul, 10
Do you want to say that kyrghyzstan is " A " nation ?
And they find a sloution ?
Or you want to say that pakistan is similar to kyrghyzstan ???
D. I can give a look to that country after Naveed's reply.
What would you like to say?
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