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FB Banned me for 15 days

LA Green

So FB banned me for 15 days because I was advertising. -_- Well I guess technically, it was spam but I didn't see it that way. lol Bloggers answer me this, FB is free. It's free to open an account but they want to charge me for advertising. I was advertising on pages of big name people like Green day, Jay-Z...you know people who have enough traffic to start rush hour on the freeway. What's my point of this rant? I go to school where I pay $8-$900 dollars a class to learn about marketing; why would I need FB to market for me when I can do this without them. Visit www.lagreenmarketing.com and give a thumbs up on FB. I want to prove to FB, as a business starting up, that people are going to like me and its wrong that they charge for advertising.

54 Replies

Deviltronics ∙ 22 weeks ago

Facebook wouldn't survive if they didn't charge businesses for advertising.

Unless you're an artist or in the music industry, posting on Jay-Z and Greendays walls aren't going to get you anywhere apart from getting blocked.

If that's what you're learning to do for $800 then you're being taken for a ride.

Deviltronics ∙ 22 weeks ago

^ Another example of spam

Deviltronics ∙ 22 weeks ago

Aaaaand it got deleted for spam.

My Travel Affairs ∙ 22 weeks ago

SPAM is annoying, simply too many people reported you and Facebook banned you, it will happen again and much faster next time cos you are already on the spammer list.

You know advertising is needed, but there are ways to do it subtly, fun and interesting so people will follow and like, of course it is much harder work than just posting on Jay Z page and getting espouse.....we all make our choices, but take it easy with Facebook, cos they will ban you forever, I have seen a thread about it here or on Blog Catalog.

Deviltronics ∙ 22 weeks ago

Agreed.

If you're going to use Facebook as a way to gain exposure you have to do it properly and play by the rules.

There are other ways to do it. I own 35 Facebook pages totaling 385,000 likes and I use those pages to post my content.

My Travel Affairs ∙ 22 weeks ago

Wow, you really have time on your hands :)

That is serious power, almost 400k likes!

My Travel Affairs ∙ 22 weeks ago

I mean, I hardly manage one page, and poorly :)

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

@ Devlitronics...I'm not getting taken for a ride. Look you responded to my post. I have two FB pages...one personal and one for business. If FB kicks me off for two weeks and I blog about it, I'm getting exposure; yet when I posted Zen Musing something of a substanial read, no one replies. Why is that? Because it's boring. It's not really boring but nobody knows me so reading it will do what? All I did was take a different approach. Marketing. =) and man that's a TON of pages...do you have a day were just respond to everyone of them? @ my travel affairs...I know I will have to take it easy on FB but I know title was going to grab someone attention. =)

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

*I knew this title was going to grab someone attention...btw visit, www.lagreenmarketing.com and give a thumbs up on FB please...that fair right? =) I got your attention. =)

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

"Important: Submission of affiliate URL, shameless link dropping, and vandalism are Strictly Prohibited and may cause Permanent BAN of your account."

The irony of that being right above the comment box on a thread like this.

I'm just starting to blog again after taking a year or so off, and currently I have no likes on my Facebook page, but I post like I have a thousand.

On my old fan page, I was up around 500 likes. I used less than $20 worth of advertising credits on Facebook to help get me to that point. (Something I am considering doing again to gain traffic.} Even though it was only $20, I would have been pissed if someone tried to piggy back off of the traffic I was getting from advertisements. It's no different than someone trying to piggy back off of the degree you're working on getting. You paid that $8-$900, what right do I have to use your notes to avoid going to class and then getting the same degree that you worked hard to get?! None!

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

On a total side note, you started this thread so putting a link on it asking for someone to swing by and like one of your pages is totally fair. To me it's no different than having a fan page like box on your blog.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

Well I'm working hard to get that degree becasue that was my option. I enjoy going to school, meeting new people and learning things that I may have not learned from just daily conversation. In all rights, yes you can use my notes...life is about learning everyday. As human kind, we should help each other. So having some education won't hurt when meeting people; and if you use my notes to advace, more power to you. When reading the Art of war, one thing a business must do is adopt to their surroundings and use their environment....I say that to say, we all use each other in one way or the other it's how you do it. You and I have something in common: we both want exposure to some degree for whatever purpose.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

One more thing @ Heart shaped Rain...Do you think it's right that you paid $20 worth of advertising credits on a social network account you signed up for free? I look at it like this, FB gets TONS of money from Big name business, famous actors, musicians and Kim Kardashian. lol So why do you, me, and anyone else, just your average everyday person, have to pay? Were starting from the bottom. I do agree there should be a limit as to how many times you do post something on high traffic pages BUT to pay for something you signed up for free, not right. Oh and visit my website so you know what I stand for. Hope to hear from you soon.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

I feel that, most college students who have graduated, and plan on starting up a business, should get atleast six months of free advertisng on the all social networking sites. Why? Most of us have major loans to pay back. We all know that, the internet is the most powerful tool out there. Some college students may disagree and some who did not go to college may disagree but it should atleast be an option on the table. The amount of people attending college is not as high as it use to be; with that said, most people coming out of college, may not even take up on the offer; and even with the offer on the table, how many people are actually starting up a business coming out of college? Just a thought...feel free to leave you comments below...

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

I think that it's right that I used $20 on advertising because I chose to use that $20 on advertising. I didn't have to buy that in order to use Facebook. It was something above and beyond the free package that they offered me. So I don't think charging for advertising is out of the question. Having an advertising account with them doesn't change your ability to use the site.

And I don't mean that you can't help someone out by lending them notes on from a certain day or specific subject. What I was meaning is that no one should expect you to go to class everyday and pay attention and take notes just so someone who isn't doing all of that can take your notes and pass.

If it's just a simple url swap or link dropping with the permission of the person or page, that's one thing. But just to expect that it's ok to do so on someone else's page simply because they have a large following is not.

But, that's just how I feel about it. I'm sure there a ton of people who think like you do and have no issues at all and get kind of irritated when people do have a problem with it.

I will say this, a lot of sites that you can purchase domains from offer some deals that come with $50 worth of Facebook advertising credits to help you get started.

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

And I agree, everyone uses everyone. Doesn't mean that they are being used in a negative way, it just means that everyone gets something out of every relationship or there wouldn't be a relationship.

Expecting to be able to post on someone's page simply because they have a large following or celebrity attached to their names is just ridiculous to me. First off, you don't know that they don't pay for advertising. But secondly, and for me, I don't know them. I don't go over to their houses on the weekend, why should I be able to ride off the coat tails of whatever they did, good or bad, to get that kind of attention?! They don't owe me anything simply because they have already made it.

I think too often people get a sense of entitlement that is just wrong. Even if you did know these people, why would you want your success to be tied to them? You're going to school to earn your way in life, keep that level of pride. In the end, you'll know that you did it for yourself.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

Well your right, I don't know if they pay for advertising...but check my point of view out, a friend I know on FB, posted about how now and days there are no leaders, heroes or role models in this day and age. People agreed saying that our kids these days, look up to our athletes musicians and actors as role models. The problem: Most of our famous pepole, don't really do anything that's note worthy. So when I post on their page, I blend in with the 2,000 people that have left comments. I don't want Jay-Z, Green Day, Entourage or any other big name people to notice; if they do that's great, if they don't that's great. The thing is that, these are people who flock to their page. Its no different then me going to a big celeberity concert and passing out my business cards...I'm not after there fame. But they have people. Its the same in advertising. When you advertise on the internet, thousands of people see your ad everyday; yet it's paid for.

When I paid for advertising through google, I got some traffic to my page, no likes on FB just, not even a message back; that was three months worht of advertising. This time, in just one month, by posting on other pages, the traffic sored the roof. I went from zero to five a day to about 15 to 20 visits a day and some resopnds but nothing huge. One thing I noticed, on FB and Myspace, the more views you have on your page or any kind of traffic, the more advertisments appear on your page. Is that right? No. I didn't give them consent to put that on my page but they did anyway. So that's why when FB put suspended for 15 days I thought hypocrites. I have my level of pride still...I was also told pride is of the foolish man.

In school, they teach us text book information to use; unfourtnately, some of the techniques are a little outdated. I'm still using the skills I have aquired but I mix it with modern day marketing. Let me tell you this, I've worked at Sam's Club for 9 years now. I've worked at two clubs in those 9 years and have visited over 20 clubs...well I have seen about 20 different clubs across the states and visited a few. Guess what each and every Sam's Club location had in common? They were sitting right next to a busy freeway with a big sign that said Sam's Club or if it wasn't a freeway, it was a street that had TONS of traffic. My point: In a sense, I'm doing the same exact thing on the internet. I'm placing my virtual store right next to a busy freeway or intersection.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

I got a little off topic about what my friend posted....My point: Parents should become role models to there kids again. Parents are people and they lose their ways. My company is about saving our planet but before we can save our environment, it starts within us. In order for us to do that, we would need to alter what goes in our bodies. I'm not going to get deep into detail because I'll end up selling and I use the internet to get a message out...sometimes lol. So, my message is, we can not complain about our environment if we do not care about ourselves. Everyone of us to some extent is selfish. So if we don't care for ourselves, why would we care about what goes in our body; let alone down our drains.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

BTW Heart shaped rain, I really like you. I think your a solid person.

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

LOL! Thank you very much. I think the fact that you are continuing the conversation and not trying to make someone who disagrees with you sound stupid, means that you're pretty decent yourself.

And I completely agree with the part about putting too much stake into people because they can throw a ball. I'm into sports, I mean...I'm into sports...but I don't call players heroes. The ability to throw a ball 50 yrds from your hip only means you can throw a ball for 50 yrds. It doesn't mean that you're a good person. It doesn't mean you're a role model for what children should grow up being, or the kind of man you want your daughter to marry.

As far as the advertising on Facebook goes, when you start the advertising account, you choose how, when & even statistically who will see your ad. The ads that you see 24/7 are set up to be shown to everyone while I choose to only have friends of friends who had not liked my page yet to see mine. It's a different set up and the ads were cheaper.

I've never used any other form of advertising, so I can't account for the Google thing. Unless it was simply that the Google ad did not push traffic to Facebook only to the Google side of your site. The Facebook ads brought a few to my site, but mainly only brought Facebook traffic. But that's all I was wanting, so I was fine with that.

While I still think you shouldn't link on someone's page just because they have a large following, I do understand what you're trying to say. It's raining anyways how in the world could my water gun ruin someone's leather jacket?! But taking just one little part from what you were saying about your friend pointing out that most celebrities today are infamous instead of being famous...
...infamous only cares that his name is being said, famous cares about why someone is saying their name.

I totally get what you're saying about getting traffic from someone else's site. I really do. And I am sure that you have gotten a lot of people who maybe went to your site and liked what you were saying based on what you were saying and not just because you posted a link on Green Day's fan page (total side note, I love Green Day). And there are several sites that I love, but the way I do it is share their info on my page instead of posting my link on their page. Stuff like photos and status updates. And if you do that you're still handing out your card at the concert, just not on the same that they've rented to perform in, more like in the parking lot.

Personally, I don't follow links left on other's pages. But I do pay attention to the shares and will check out pages that have shared some of the content that I like. Maybe when you get back on Facebook, you could try that and see if it works for you. And you shouldn't get labeled as a spammer like that either.

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

BTW, when you get back on Facebook, you are more than welcome to put your link on my page. It has absolutely no likes from people yet, so it won't bring you any traffic...but I think you've earned it. lol

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

Lol...Well I hope I've earned it. That rocks you like Green day...so with that said, "Do you have the time/ to listen to me whine." lol...I dont want to make anyone feel stupid it's not a good look as a business and as a human that's not what I'm about. It's good to better people. Mind you, there are some stupid people out there in the world and I can clearly see your not one of them that's cool. lol But even the people who are stupid, it's better to understand their intelligence. Everyone has a common ground even the a holes in this world. So mos def, I will take you up on your offer on FB when I'm allowed back on. lol...I'm almost sure at some point, I'm going to get a comment from someone whose going to be a ignoramus...with that said, I hope I didn't scare them away if they read this. lol So where you from?

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

OMG! I love just about every song on Nimrod! "Good Riddance (Time of your Life)" is one of my all time favorite songs ever. It was the last song we danced to at my wedding before leaving. The hubs and I are an unlikely pair, so it fits us perfectly.

I do my best, but I have a very low stupid tolerance level. It's something I'm working on. I try not to beat someone to death over it, but I have my off days. lol

I'm in Texas, more specifically Hillbilly Hell. You?

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

*fingers crossed* that anyone else who comments sticks to the theme that's already been displayed and treats this a conversation that is elective and does not need or require personal jabs in order to take part in.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

Lol! I like how you have your fingers crossed. No worries, I'm pretty sure someone is going to come on changing the topic; just bring them right back to the origins of it. I'm in Los Angeles California...Home of Hollywood, bad traffic, smog, Kim Kardashian (Oh God) you know, that woman use to live 15 minutes away from were I live. lol Small freaking world. It's interesting out here. Los Angeles I think is the only were the people can be cold and warm at the same time...lol For example, Out of towner: Excuse me, can you tell me how to get to Universal City walk: Native: Oh yeah! Of course, Ok take the 91 East and exit on Compton blvd. Make a right and take it to Rosecrans. (Person smiles) Tourist: Oh thank you...your so nice. Native: Not a problem. Those directions are in the oppsite direction and in one of the worst neighborhoods in the country. L.A. can be tricky at times but overall, it has quite few angels.... I try not to dicourage people but I like to let them know what they might be facing coming out here.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

Hillbilly hell? Lol I have a cousin that lives in Texas...she's in Dallas. I wanted to go visit her for her wedding but money and other things got in the way...I heard you guys have some of the best BBQ in the world! OH GOD know's im a foodie. I was about 8 or 9 and I was reading my social studies book for class and for some odd reason, they had a picture of this family in Texas eating aorund the table and the only thing I remember from that study was this HUMONGOUS steak on the plate...I swear from that day on, I just dawned Texas as the BBQ state. lol Matter of fact, I don't think I did well on that test...but I remeber that steak and corn mash potatoes (Dean's head falls back and drool comes out) I told myself, if I ever get the chance, I'm going to make Texas my food vacation; I mean also want to explore the state but I would LOVE to just go to Texas and eat until I gain a new ass.LOL

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

OK...I've been on top of the recently talk all day so this means I know some of you have seen this...probably read it and go on...feel free to to leave a comment below. Negative or positive...if you want you can visit www.lagreenmarketing.com and give a thumbs up on FB or just talk to me on here...either way, I don't bite. =)

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 22 weeks ago

I use to live in Cali, I was a tad bit more south though...Oceanside. As much as I loved living there, there is something fundamentally wrong with being able to swim in the ocean on Christmas day. lol

I'm not too far from your cousin, I'm in East Texas. And yes, we have some really good BBQ places around here. I'm more into cajun though. And just about anything made with curry. I have a bit of foodie obsession myself.

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

I love Cajun food also. The hub of my family lives in Louisiana so its either cajun or creole. And yes, Cali has some great weather but at times, I wish on Chrsitmas day it would be cooler or maybe even just snow for one day. I remember one year on Christmas it was actually 90 out here; there's nothing fun about opening your presents up as a kid and sweat dripping in your eyes. lol...well maybe not dripping but damn I shouldn't be whiping my forehead because I was playing with my toys. Occasionally, we would go back east to visit relatives during Christmas so that made it nice. =) Funny I had the same problem because my relatives would turn the heat up..either way I was still sweating. lol the differece, I could go outside and cool off in the 15 degree air. =/

LA Green ∙ 22 weeks ago

Soooo...I guess it time to start a new thread. I guess everyone has the same opinion I have...except for heart shaped rain but she stood her ground...what's everyone else view?

Deviltronics ∙ 21 weeks ago

I was going to reply to your response until I realised the conversation went on for a while lol

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

Lol....yeah we went back and forth and then we found a common ground. lol

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 21 weeks ago

I thought of this thread when I saw this quote today. lol

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me.” - Dudley Field Malone

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

LOL....it's true. Most things that I've learned have been from life lessons or school...but the biggest portions have been from debates. lol...where did you find that quote?

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

Visit www.lagreenmarketing.com and give a thumbs up on FB. =)

DressedInTheCity ∙ 21 weeks ago

I've never even been to marketing class and I knew that's the fastest way to marketing one's blog or business LoL ~ glad I didn't have to waste so much money learning such a simple thing ;) ... okay sarcasm aside. Is it not enough that you're able to have a private account on FB for free, but surely if you "advertise a business" through them, they should be compensated somehow?

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

@Dressd....I hope you don't think that's only thing I've learned from Marketing. lol Without going to google, what are the 4 p's of marketing? Marketing deals with the psychological aspect of a person as well. Not like in therapy but more like, what makes a person tick. For example, restaurants use the colors yellow and red because it increases a person's appetite by 25% when the two colors are seen. Most people do not know that, only some people. That's a basic but there's other tricks out there marketing uses in order to get seen or for you to spend your money...matter of fact, what have you noticed in the stores all Christmas, while shopping, that get's you upset? As in compensated, I think FB should give at least three months of free advertising. It doesn't have to be special over the top advertising but something to get you going. After three months, then you began to pay; matter of fact, one doesn't even have to use all three months. If in one month they get the traffic and customer gain there looking for, then they could stop the trial and that's that; make it a one time thing. T

That's not to hard ask for. Like I stated the account was free, why should I have to pay for advertising? Or at least, stick to the root of things...then charge. FB your able to create an account for free of charge and if you like, as a new business, when you sign up, you get three months free worth of advertising; only a one time deal. After, that we charge (apply fee here) for advertising. I'm pretty sure you would see more people sign up. Come on three months free...and on average with the right marketing, it'll only take at tops one month to gain exposure..on average three weeks...if you're trying to become famous that may take a little time and money but if your going for the regular, one month will bring people in.

DressedInTheCity ∙ 21 weeks ago

LoL no I was just kidding, I have a weird sense of humour at the best of times ;) I guess you could ask the question in a different light. If you owned FB, how would you feel about it? I always seem to come to a different conclusion when I kind of "reverse" my question ~ is that even the correct grammar? Hehe .. Anyway, it was an interesting post :-)

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

Gosh...I keep forgetting the name of that website...I think it's www.lagreenmarketing.com If I'm correct...I seen a few people have visited www.lagreenmarketing.com and liked it on FB. =) lol Visit....yeah yeah you know. Stay Chill keep it real: L.A. GREEN

Viktoria Michaelis ∙ 21 weeks ago

You are learning this in school and have a start-up and think you know it all, right? I don't think you can be learning too much about business if you don't know how FB earns its money, and your start-up will probably fail for much the same reason.

Time to re-think your strategy, methinks....

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

I don't think I know it all...I'm learning a lot actually. And I know how a business runs. I may not have the experience but I have the education; besides, in marketing, we only focus on marketing; not to many aspects of other parts of business. FB earns its money from advertising just as Google does; yet Google gave me $150 dollars worth of credits in advertising; so before you try to make someone feel stupid, maybe you should look up at the previous comments...If Google can give me $150 in credits, I'm pretty sure FB can afford it. BTW don't be a clone; don't be afraid to think outside the box; our country can benefit having a few people who think otherwise. The way our country is right now, we should be trying any and almost everything to re-vamp our country. If one way is not working, then try it another way. Mind you, I have failed starting my business three times already while in school...as I got closer to my degree, I noticed a change in all my attempts. A business is not easy to start up.

For some a business may have been a walk in the park. For others, like myself, it's been a constant struggle. I'm selling a product that most people have not heard of but it works better then competitors. I know this because people who have bought my products, have told me this and came back for more. So re-think strategy? I've done that multiple times...one thing to starting a business is money; I don't have much so I work with what I have; Read the Art of war...it taught me more than school has in some sense.

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

oh btw visit www.lagreenmarketing.com and give a thumbs up on FB. =)

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 21 weeks ago

I have a thing about quotes and I have a page on my blog dedicated to them. I was looking for more to add to it the other day and came upon that one.

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

@ heart shaped...that's cool. I like quotes...they at times can wrap up what I say in 300 words in a sentence. lol How's it been going? As you can see, I'm getting attacked on my point of view about being banned from FB. lol It's all good. I like hearing other people's point of view.

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

READ THIS BEFORE YOU RESPOND...sorry for the yelling, I just wanted whoever responds to this to read this before they judge or bash me. My question: Why would you feel a need to bash or talk down on me because of my point of view? Most may not read this, they might just scroll all the way down and give me a tongue lashing; but if you do read this, question yourself as to why you would bash me? In business, there have been occasions a business will do nice gestures. visit www.lagreenmarketing.com and give a thumbs up on FB...read my mission...and quotes I have posted...it's not much but it gives you a general thought as to what I'm about...

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

@ Dressed...If I owned FB, I probably would have the same view. lol My reason: I'm getting TONS of money from other business and celebrities; as a start up business I feel like this, you probably don't have much money and there is a possible chance you took a loan out in order get this going or worked your ass off to get what you have. I know at some point of time, if you got to this point, starting up, you'll succeed. You may not be the most famous business but after about a year or so, when you have customers, and you have a solid base of money, then advertising will not be that much of a hassle. I see your point of view don't get me wrong. I mean want to support a small business as much as possible; new business is good for the economy because it's allowing for money to flow again. Recently, the explosion of home business has been taking off...people can't find work or some places are cutting hours; so this becomes an option. I just think that FB should give some support; People remember the kind gestures; If FB gave me that offer, and my business does really well, I'm going back to them and paying for advertising; even if it doesn't do that well but I get tons of traffic and see some income, I'm going back; most people would.

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 21 weeks ago

How much longer are you in FB timeout?

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

Nine more days and I'm back...I just won't post on everybody's page like that. lol One time thing only. This post got has a few responses...Let's see who else comes on and bash the "black sheep" BTW new readers that's not an invite it's more of inquiry...sort of. lol with that said, here's the bait. =)

Heart Shaped Rain ∙ 21 weeks ago

I was just wondering so I can pester the crap out of you to like my page so I can go like your page. lmao

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

LOL! Ok...your funny heart shaped. =)

LA Green ∙ 21 weeks ago

I have a question for all new readers...would you pay for something that you received for free? A thought to think about....

LA Green ∙ 20 weeks ago

Haven't been here in a while...well it hasn't been that long but I decided to take a short break. How has everyone been? =)

LA Green ∙ 19 weeks ago

I have to resurface this every now and then to see what people's opinions are...there's some truth behind what I said but I love to hear new answers...

LA Green ∙ 2 weeks 3 days ago

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