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Thiruselvam K says 705 days ago
Hi Depressedman, from Mines to PJ to Wangsa Maju. Nomadic work life. 18 years service, that all I deserve. You chose it. Keen in sales. Earn better.
Depressedman says 752 days ago
Continually received 3 performance rewards until company stopped it. Am I not performing? My team got a 3 years annuity maintenance contract with high VA in 2009. Am I not performing?
RebelForce says 750 days ago
Of course you are performing!! You are just not making enough money to maintain one of the 40the richest man in Malaysia. What you have provided is just peanut as far as he is concerned. So, my humble recommendation is go out and make sure that you are racking in miliions for their liking. Please go rob a bank!
Depressedman says 752 days ago
The company management is not sincere. Firstly, told us business plan not approved, not legal to pay salary, suspended the limit of authority of the managers. Then told us a lot procedural problems in the company, implemented more stringent procedures that almost paralyze the company business operation. A simple RM600 quotation took us more than 20 days before it can go out. Do you think your customer will wait? Seem like there are more procedural problems after they took over our finance and operation department. Not doing any good to the business at all. Sales persons are crying for help everyday.
Slave Driver says 747 days ago
The X-IBM chap and his darling core team are only interested in creating processes to CONTROL your non-oil related company. Bring in new business in never their problems ... they view it as the sales people's KPI's. Now that their objective is to close down business, they will modify existing processes to implement it legally.
Thiruselvam K says 705 days ago
WHY GROUSE. The simple rule is to get out, before they throw you out. If they do not care why waste time with such people? So much of better opportunities. Get out of the drying well, before it is too late and deep to get out from.
Mafiaboy says 752 days ago
What this!!!!!!!!!
One Workstation-One Chair but Two Person have to share.
"Satu Sarong-Satu Pisau"
One Workstation-One Chair but Two Person have to share.
"Satu Sarong-Satu Pisau"
Depressedman says 752 days ago
I was managing a department with 50+ staffs with managers and engineers. Overnight, i start taking meeting minutes for the weekly business meeting. No reason or explanation given by the company. What have i done to deserve this? Why are they doing this to me?
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
have you thinking is not you they punishing..is the people on top they punishing. You are the casualty of war babe. So get up and become rebellion. Wake people..now is the time new revolution.
Depressedman says 752 days ago
Even my mobile phone is barred since a month ago. The company is taking away the entitled benefits a bit by bit. My desk phone still not working, maybe it will never work. I have to borrow son's phone and carry the old phone so that incoming calls still can reach me, especially from clients.
Thiruselvam K says 705 days ago
Soon they will take the chair off your bottom. That is for sure. BRING YOUR OWN CHAIR, they will tell you.
Depressedman says 752 days ago
Sometimes i feel victimized because not all phones are barred. My phone bill rarely more than RM100.00 per month anymore.
Slave Driver says 747 days ago
This is extra orinary time and you must react with extra orinary responses. If this is a dirty fight then stop fighting like a gentleman.
Mulan says 752 days ago
Jesus, next pay period, check and see if you are still
on payroll. You never know.
on payroll. You never know.
Mulan says 752 days ago
You want a serious to goodness advice?
That's it not looking promising for you.
I know this is one of those " easy to say than done"
kinda advice but have you tried to look somewhere else?
That's it not looking promising for you.
I know this is one of those " easy to say than done"
kinda advice but have you tried to look somewhere else?
Helpme says 751 days ago
I am also sharing table and chair in the new office, and My size is not small. Really having a hard time in the office... I am getting the unnecessary presure in this working environment and my blood pressure is higher now.
Depressedman says 751 days ago
Better visit your panel doctor before you lose the medical benefit. Unjust treatment to the staffs.
SakuraMan says 751 days ago
Does one-table-one-chair share by 2 person violate employee's right or breach of employment contract? Maybe SoCalledLaywer can give some insight and how to go about this
RebelForce says 750 days ago
Aiyaa... why complaint?? The new management under our COO is practicing some twosome, threesome, and foursome in our new working environment!!! enjoy it while it lasts!!!!!!!! Please take photos for the new environment, they may be useful for your future references.
SakuraMan says 751 days ago
Regarding the one-table-one-chair share by 2 person violation I sent a complaint email to my boss to voice out my disatisfaction...my boss has no answer to it. Appreantly this is done by HR my boss also dunno. Is there a procedure issue here?
+1
SoCalledLawyer says 751 days ago
In the book: A Handbook of Malaysian Labour Laws, the author outlined 9 possible circumstances that may give rise to a claim for constructive dismissal: This is one of them:
Altering or taking away facilities reflective of the position (for example company direct telephone line, room and personal secretary)
Altering or taking away facilities reflective of the position (for example company direct telephone line, room and personal secretary)
SoCalledLawyer says 751 days ago
If you want to know more, you are welcome to my blog and I posted a idiot guide of constructive dismissal article there.
Just click on me.
Just click on me.
Dark Vader says 751 days ago
Little bird told me that something will be done in the coming months...He advised me to hold on to the tree trunk for at least 2 more months...
Helpme says 751 days ago
Well... 2 more months. We all here in SAKURA is more them 10 years.. What is 2 more months. I will follow the table chips no matter how much is the call, just want to the see the cards.
Ah Pek says 751 days ago
I think most of us can wait for another 2 months or maybe 2 years. But someone can't. I heard one of our colleague is pregnant and is cramped in a 10ft x 17ft room with another 5 persons. This is untenable for her and her baby.
Retard says 751 days ago
Indeed a sad day for the Sakura community, if this is true. I can smell a potential legal suit here...
SoCalledLawyer says 750 days ago
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I smell something here again. Your employer is buying times and planning a wind up here.
When a company is winding up, the receiver/manager will liquidate all assets of the company and distribute in accordance to the provisions of the Company's Act. Under this section, priority is given to debenture holders, payment to receivers, EPF, Income tax. Employees wages are given a low priority and it is possible that the balance money realised from the liquidation may not be sufficient to pay the employees. However if you are covered by the employement act, you may be able to claim for termination benefits, but you will still have to line up for whatever residue after priority payments have been made.
I smell something here again. Your employer is buying times and planning a wind up here.
When a company is winding up, the receiver/manager will liquidate all assets of the company and distribute in accordance to the provisions of the Company's Act. Under this section, priority is given to debenture holders, payment to receivers, EPF, Income tax. Employees wages are given a low priority and it is possible that the balance money realised from the liquidation may not be sufficient to pay the employees. However if you are covered by the employement act, you may be able to claim for termination benefits, but you will still have to line up for whatever residue after priority payments have been made.
Helpme says 750 days ago
Well, I heard that a Fixed assets sales of Sakura Global will be coming soon. If this is true that they are selling the fixed assets, how we going to office work? Are fixed assets including chair, table and phone? Gosh....
Dark Vader says 750 days ago
Brrrrh...This is getting serious...1st, it was the moved, then we found out that they simply dump at the small chicken coop where there is no proper sitting arrangement and telephone. Now you are saying that the next minutes we won't get our tables and chairs ??? TIU-NIA MAH !!!
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
well what to say. Even I heard wangsa maju land also wanted to sell to PUSRAWI. If is true..beware...we going to shift again. Maybe this our office on top tree or in the car.
Orangbawah says 739 days ago
adoi...nanti SST staffs pun kena kongsi meja d kerusi dgn org global....
Sakura Global says 750 days ago
At last the "management" is doing all staffs a favour. There already gave us a lot of bullet to sue them for "Constructive Dismissal". This is another valuable bullet. I would love to be told that I will no longer has any PC, chair & table to use in office.
Joker says 749 days ago
I heard that the management is after those old men in putrajaya network team. Pursuing them to transfer back to "Nazi Concentration Camp".
Joker says 749 days ago
Obviously they have no intention to pay any compensation to the staff. VSS or MSS, no way. They want you voluntarily resign and they don't need you to serve the balance. On the other side, they want us to do business as usual.
Joker says 749 days ago
Of course, we still want them to compensate the staffs. But we will get the Labour Department to talk to them. So, let contribute by posting your frustration here and recruit more to join. We will be succeed if we are persistence and united.
RebelForce says 749 days ago
Let us be honest here, they want you to go without any form of compensation. That's the whole idea. And if you are not going, they will then find faults and making life miserable. Worst, they will find some allegations to give you show cause to pressure you some more.
In my opinion, someone will make mistakes (either the morons or us); if they do, then we will have enough grounds and reasons to sue. The longer they delay, the worst and nasty they will become. So brace yourself.
Just look at our current office environment, I am sure that we are still paying rental for Sakura@PJ because it is under contract, and we are also paying for the depreciation for the fixed asset done at PJ office. So what is the saving? None. What is the purpose? Make your working environment difficult.
I do not think they want us to do business as usual, the business has already been damaged beyond return, and I am sure they know it.
In my opinion, someone will make mistakes (either the morons or us); if they do, then we will have enough grounds and reasons to sue. The longer they delay, the worst and nasty they will become. So brace yourself.
Just look at our current office environment, I am sure that we are still paying rental for Sakura@PJ because it is under contract, and we are also paying for the depreciation for the fixed asset done at PJ office. So what is the saving? None. What is the purpose? Make your working environment difficult.
I do not think they want us to do business as usual, the business has already been damaged beyond return, and I am sure they know it.
Joker says 749 days ago
They will be surprised how much evidences we have. The more the merrier. To be honest, you can't kill a dead man twice.
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
Geees...oldman..now you think about united. before all this happen none was taken or say to united, taking care others and bla..bla...bal.. cikalang, bila blakang sudah panas bru mau cari kawan utk lawan. Dulu lu..lu...gua...gua..
lu pikir la sendiri babe..
lu pikir la sendiri babe..
Hang Tuah says 749 days ago
rakan rakan sekerja, minta bagi tau semua kawan-kawan dan customer macam mana bos Sakura menganiaya kami.
RebelForce says 748 days ago
In several meetings I had with the "EX" small and mighty MD over the years (even after he was stripped off his authority), he was mentioning that "IF you screwed me I will probably forgive you, but If you screwed Sakura I will personally going after you!". I knew he meant it but I am just curious of what is he going to do now that he is being screwed by Sakura Management repeatedly for the past few months. HA HA HA interesting.
It is so quiet at his end, it is very un-becoming of him. Is he on holidays during suspension? Does anybody know what's on his mind? Choosing between devils, I will choose him any time than COO and DSS. They are just so evil.
It is so quiet at his end, it is very un-becoming of him. Is he on holidays during suspension? Does anybody know what's on his mind? Choosing between devils, I will choose him any time than COO and DSS. They are just so evil.
Joker says 748 days ago
All devils are evil. A devil would not think he is evil. The person that screwing people would not think he is.
Realdepressed says 748 days ago
Excuse me, Mr. depressedman. I think your BIO is very similar to mine. I don't know who you are but I would like to clarify to the people that I have no relation to this "depressedman".
Orangbawah says 748 days ago
tak apa lah, info dari depressedman memang betol, bukan? semua orang pun depress sekarang. kerja tak steady...
Hang Tuah says 748 days ago
Apa berlaku di wangsamaju I tak kisah. I mau performance reward. Company janji bayar kita RRP kalau kita capai SLA PCN.
Hang Tuah says 748 days ago
Kita sudah capai SLA PCN untuk Q4 2009 & Q1 2010, sekarang bos kata RRP sudah dibatalkan. Mana boleh? Bos ingat kata batal boleh batal terus? Kita kena bayar sewa rumah, bayar ansuran kereta, bayar hphone, bayar xxxxx.
SakuraMan says 748 days ago
As the new managment do not have a clue what the people in Sakura Global are doing they want to see who is performing and who is not performing so that they can plan what to do next. This is just a hunch
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
bayar xxxx...hmmmm...menarik bunyi tu.
kongsi2 la kawan..kami pun nak tahu gak apa tu xxxx..
kongsi2 la kawan..kami pun nak tahu gak apa tu xxxx..
CooLee says 748 days ago
At my point of views, this is a national issues.. either HQ staff or staff from branches.. SM, AM, Exec or 'cool lee' @ non exec staff ( contract and permanent)... so many issues arise and still not resolved yet by management...
1. Late millage claim payment - we all use our pocket money to 'invest' on company operation... and please pay back our money on time..
2. PMCare cannot been used at clinics
3. KPI payment - suddenly terminated
4. Late salary payment
MAYBE these issue not important (maybe important)to 'big' guys with 'big' salary .. but for 'cool lee'like me, this is a big issues...
GOD.. please help us..
1. Late millage claim payment - we all use our pocket money to 'invest' on company operation... and please pay back our money on time..
2. PMCare cannot been used at clinics
3. KPI payment - suddenly terminated
4. Late salary payment
MAYBE these issue not important (maybe important)to 'big' guys with 'big' salary .. but for 'cool lee'like me, this is a big issues...
GOD.. please help us..
TiMuN says 748 days ago
CooLee.. your question maybe the management will answer.. 'we are having a problem with cash flow'..
The top management said.. biz as usual.. but semua tak boleh nak buat.. sales quota increase..bagi quota tak masuk akal tapi bila ada project atau tender tak boleh nak masuk.. reason small VA..
the question is.. kalau tak der project macamana nak ada duit...
another thing..
on Jan 2010.. HR announce to withdrawn the KPI.. suddenly last month kena sign semula.. utk apa??? i think this is the bullet for top management to kick us out from SAKURA...
The top management said.. biz as usual.. but semua tak boleh nak buat.. sales quota increase..bagi quota tak masuk akal tapi bila ada project atau tender tak boleh nak masuk.. reason small VA..
the question is.. kalau tak der project macamana nak ada duit...
another thing..
on Jan 2010.. HR announce to withdrawn the KPI.. suddenly last month kena sign semula.. utk apa??? i think this is the bullet for top management to kick us out from SAKURA...
TiMuN says 748 days ago
working at SAKURA more than 10 years... what i get from SAKURA???? only a monthly salary... with 2 times increment (alhamdulillah)and go thru 3 times VSS/MSS.....
but this time ... i don know????
but this time ... i don know????
CooLee says 747 days ago
management always said " please understand company situation"... yeess.. we can accept it but please give what staff deserve to get... pay our salary on time.. pay our claim on time.. do not 'cheat' staff about medical card ( embarrassing when we want use pmcare card at clinic but rejected because payment issues)
TheSaints says 747 days ago
So embarassing go to clinic PM Care card rejected then I have to hunt for a clinic that accept PM Care Card.
Orangbawah says 747 days ago
bukan sj PM care....claim pun lambat...kadang-kadang makan masa 3-4 bulan...
CooLee says 747 days ago
its difficult to claim back our moneys after we spend it for company operation.. I think we working for Adolf Hitler...
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
yeah...you right coolee..HAil Hitler. So..where are the allied team? I think the best is all of us ask DRA dialgue with us. This time raise out our voice...Let them hear our voice brother and sister..let them hear out cries....
Let them hear out inner voice....Amen brother and sister...
Let them hear out inner voice....Amen brother and sister...
Joker says 741 days ago
No need another town hall lah. Voice out? Nanti kena show cause lagi.
They can come in here if they want to hear our voice.
They can come in here if they want to hear our voice.
Priyanika says 747 days ago
enjoy the work, do it as if you r enjoying in a game, do not be attached with the results, just play well- i follow this philosophy at work- and it treats me well
Staffkecewa says 747 days ago
macam mana PM Care ada masalah, macam mana Claim boley lambat..dan macam mana gaji kita leh lambat?? siapa yang bayar? Sakura Synergy.. macam mana Sakura Synergy boleh tak ada duit?? siapa yang gelapkan duit Sakura Synergy?? kami semua nak jawapan daripada management Sakura Synergy..
+1
Orangbawah says 747 days ago
mana ada lagi management sakura synergy.....mana ada management lagi sakura global.....semua kena suspend.....tak kira salah atau tidak.....macam mana ni....inilah tujuan blog ni.....bising bising boleh lah.....nak jawapan??
Slave Driver says 745 days ago
I would inteprete the suspension of all LOA's to mean that the company is desperate to reduce further liabilities ... It is the writing on the wall that the end is getting close.
CooLee says 747 days ago
I found in facebook one of the sakura staff.. They remove the signboard by themselves.. no more vendors to do this job because sakura already 'miskin'...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs506.ash1/29924_1447806441677_1428662179_31210745_5595277_n.jpg
maybe next time, SOW an engineer need to add ' repair and maintain company signboard'...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs506.ash1/29924_1447806441677_1428662179_31210745_5595277_n.jpg
maybe next time, SOW an engineer need to add ' repair and maintain company signboard'...
Joker says 746 days ago
Salute to all the Sakura staffs that willing to go extra mile although "removing signboard" is not in their SOW. I believe they are many more unsung heroes in Sakura.
This is the thing we don't see it in our KPI.
This is the thing we don't see it in our KPI.
Joker says 746 days ago
This is the thing you don't see it in multinational corporation. That why they don't understand, they don't appreciate.
They use the eye to see thing. They don't use the heart to see thing.
They use the eye to see thing. They don't use the heart to see thing.
CooLee says 746 days ago
not my intend to manipulate this picture.. just to share with others how difficult our job.. here in technical department(warehouse) at PJ more worse..
Inspector Sab says 722 days ago
i also heard they print own sakura shirt to go to work becoz company don't provide enough. i tabik spring on their effort. sakura only take measurement, but don't give the shirt.
Depressedman says 746 days ago
Finally, my mobile is completely out-of-reach now. Hopefully saving on my phone bill can help them to pay out some outstanding staff claims.
Since my desk phone still not working. If you want to contact me please do not hesitate to leave a message in this blog. I will get back to you as soon as I can.
Since my desk phone still not working. If you want to contact me please do not hesitate to leave a message in this blog. I will get back to you as soon as I can.
TheSaints says 746 days ago
wow this is uncalled for. maybe you are in the target list already or they boycot the phone operator coz their service not up to standard! never know huh
Joker says 746 days ago
No worry. I can walk to your place if I want to see you. Just a suggestion: Maybe you should inform your customers to leave message on this blog in case they can't reach you.
Top-top mgmt may remove your email soon.
Top-top mgmt may remove your email soon.
Ah Pek says 744 days ago
Don't worry, top management is too busy with the show cause letter served by Kenny for mismanagement of Sakura Imaging. If not handle properly, he might go to jail.
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
yeah...betul hang tuah...Apa kata kita semua jadi hang jebat....Cool...sweet.
SoCalledLawyer says 743 days ago
If an employer considers that the employee, having committed an offence, will bring disrepute to the firm, the employer can hold a domestic inquiry to investigate and possibly dismiss the employee. However, as in other cases of dismissal, the employee can appeal against being dismissed by lodging a complain of "Unfair dismissal" under Section 20 of the Industrial Relations Act.
Inspector Sab says 722 days ago
sakuraman... haritu kita pernah minum semeja, kencing setandas, makan sepinggan, keje secompany, benti je belum sesama :)
Slave Driver says 745 days ago
I think as long as your contributions is constructive and serve as a record of reliable information (keep documented proof) then they will add values to protect your rights at labour office... that is if someone decided to file a case later.
So, it is ok that the management is reading. This is fair game right?
So, it is ok that the management is reading. This is fair game right?
TheSaints says 743 days ago
Might be unfair advantage to staff as Sakura have a Group legal & a team of legal waiting to act on instruction. Maybe too much info is exposed in this blog that the sakura's legal will become smarter when the next show cause letter issue!
Ah Pek says 744 days ago
Warning! Performance Improvement Plan (PIP)is coming very, very soon. 20 show cause letters are coming out to those socalled under performers. Big boss is coming out with new tactic to force us out. Just hope you are not one of them.
SoCalledLawyer says 743 days ago
If you think you be retrenched?
Read this: http://bloggers.com/talk/retrenchment
Read this: http://bloggers.com/talk/retrenchment
SoCalledLawyer says 743 days ago
If you think you be fired?
Well. Getting fired from job is everyone’s last wish. But for the sake of learning, let’s keep an open mind on this issue. The two legal words often associated with someone being fired from a job are termination and dismissal.
Termination and dismissal can happen due to poor performance (not meeting the stipulated targets, rendering poor service to customers etc) and discipline problem (e.g. absenteeism, consistently late for work etc). Termination could also arise due to serious misconduct by the employee. For example, when you punched or threatened to kill your boss because he or she did not approve your leave, or robbed your own colleague, then your likelihood to be dismissed is pretty high.
However, the process of getting someone terminated or dismissed is not a straight forward process.
There are rules to be followed. Employers need to be mindful and avoid making unjust dismissal as there needs to be a convincing ground and justified proofs before someone can be fired from the job. In case of termination, the employee cannot be simply fired unless until a domestic inquiry is conducted. A domestic inquiry is a round of investigation exercise conducted by the management to establish full facts of events before a disciplinary action is taken.
There is also this thing called constructive dismissal. Constructive dismissal is a form of wrongful dismissal that happens when an employer changes the employment terms such as salary, responsibilities and position (perhaps demote you to a lower position) and asked you to either accept the new terms or resign if he disagrees.
Employment in Malaysia is governed by 3 main laws, namely the Employment Act 1955, the Industrial Relations Act 1967 and the Trade Unions Act 1959. One thing for sure, the laws serving the employment regulations are very much pro-employees. In a way, there are here to protect the employees and the workers.
This means, if an employee is wrongly fired, dismissed or terminated, the company can be in serious trouble. They can be torn into pieces. Further, the employment laws do not only limit to termination and dismissal, but all aspects of work that cover salary and compensation, safety, harassment, discrimination and so on. If you read about the entry: Resigning From Job – Get it Right, one of the possible disputes that can occur during the resignation is the settlement of final payment. So if you feel your employer owes you some outstanding salary, allowances, bonus and so on, it’s time to act.
Also, if you are being victimized by your employer (which is not only related to termination and dismissal); do not hesitate to seek for legal advice.
Well. Getting fired from job is everyone’s last wish. But for the sake of learning, let’s keep an open mind on this issue. The two legal words often associated with someone being fired from a job are termination and dismissal.
Termination and dismissal can happen due to poor performance (not meeting the stipulated targets, rendering poor service to customers etc) and discipline problem (e.g. absenteeism, consistently late for work etc). Termination could also arise due to serious misconduct by the employee. For example, when you punched or threatened to kill your boss because he or she did not approve your leave, or robbed your own colleague, then your likelihood to be dismissed is pretty high.
However, the process of getting someone terminated or dismissed is not a straight forward process.
There are rules to be followed. Employers need to be mindful and avoid making unjust dismissal as there needs to be a convincing ground and justified proofs before someone can be fired from the job. In case of termination, the employee cannot be simply fired unless until a domestic inquiry is conducted. A domestic inquiry is a round of investigation exercise conducted by the management to establish full facts of events before a disciplinary action is taken.
There is also this thing called constructive dismissal. Constructive dismissal is a form of wrongful dismissal that happens when an employer changes the employment terms such as salary, responsibilities and position (perhaps demote you to a lower position) and asked you to either accept the new terms or resign if he disagrees.
Employment in Malaysia is governed by 3 main laws, namely the Employment Act 1955, the Industrial Relations Act 1967 and the Trade Unions Act 1959. One thing for sure, the laws serving the employment regulations are very much pro-employees. In a way, there are here to protect the employees and the workers.
This means, if an employee is wrongly fired, dismissed or terminated, the company can be in serious trouble. They can be torn into pieces. Further, the employment laws do not only limit to termination and dismissal, but all aspects of work that cover salary and compensation, safety, harassment, discrimination and so on. If you read about the entry: Resigning From Job – Get it Right, one of the possible disputes that can occur during the resignation is the settlement of final payment. So if you feel your employer owes you some outstanding salary, allowances, bonus and so on, it’s time to act.
Also, if you are being victimized by your employer (which is not only related to termination and dismissal); do not hesitate to seek for legal advice.
Ah Pek says 743 days ago
Hang Tuah, Sakura is exhausting all effort to force you out, how is it possible to give you any Reward Plan! PIP is a way to pressure those "underformed" staff to resign.
Ah Pek says 743 days ago
If they refuse to resign, they performance will be review under microscope. If these staffs still underperform, the management will then issue you another show cause letter.
Ah Pek says 743 days ago
With 2 show cause letters issue to you, the management has the legal right to TERMINATE YOU! My advice, get a lawyer to answer your first show cause letter. Do not wait for the 2nd show cause letter to come. What is your advice, SoCalledLawyer?
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
Bukan hang Tuah..PIP tu jadi Bapak Ayam. PIP org potih ckp..kito bahaso bapak ayam la..
Joker says 741 days ago
PIP? Top down ke or bottom up approach?
Top down = Good idea but no biz plan not approve yet, how ah
Bottom up = Ah, staffs better watch out.
Top down = Good idea but no biz plan not approve yet, how ah
Bottom up = Ah, staffs better watch out.
SoCalledLawyer says 744 days ago
My advice: For those have resigned. Go to IR office http://jpp.mohr.gov.my/ and log a case if you think you are treated unfair.
TheSaints says 743 days ago
"..if you think you are treated unfair." is a bit hard to convince those IR officer to act since they will be dealing with a big company with political influence. Taking action against Big time corporate mighty hit a snag if not die premature.
SoCalledLawyer says 738 days ago
Based on the analysis report from Industrial Court of Malaysia.
Analysis of Awards of Dismissal Cases (2001 - 2009), click below
http://www.mp.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19:analysis-of-awards-of-dismissal-cases-2001-2008&catid=40:statistics&Itemid=61&lang=English
Analysis of Awards of Dismissal Cases (2001 - 2009), click below
http://www.mp.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19:analysis-of-awards-of-dismissal-cases-2001-2008&catid=40:statistics&Itemid=61&lang=English
TheSaints says 743 days ago
I think for the soon forseeable future, sakura will implement what was discussed in this blog to cover the gap so that the staff do not have proof to take action against them
Joker says 742 days ago
You see, they are running out of time and so do we. They want to end it fast, they do not have times to waste. PMS then PIP, too long. Even PIP alone will take at least three months. No guarantee the staffs don't take action on Sakura.
Slave Driver says 742 days ago
Ok, you have predicted that the end is approaching and also sakura management's unfriendly strategy towards its staff.
So what are you going to do next (in addition to sharing your sadness and uncertainty)? Better do something while you till have some times.
So what are you going to do next (in addition to sharing your sadness and uncertainty)? Better do something while you till have some times.
Staffkecundang says 742 days ago
You right Slave Driver. All they have been doing just talking and puor frustration. But what they are not doing is action.We should do this all time ago.Before SST was born. Noooooo....they are egoist and snob. Now the hard time are overwhelm us. Everybody is afraid losing their job. True..but what all you people been doing???? fancy talk, still falshing your flag you r the boss. (not you SLave Driver...in general i mean). I say gather all the people and strike in a proper manner and profesional. In other hash words..GET YOUR ASS UP AND FIGHT, SRTRIKE AND PIKET....SHOW THEM WE WILL NOT BE VANISH. WE WILL NOT BE QUITE. WE WILL NOT BOW TO THEM FOR DISCREMINATION. WE WILL RAISE. WE WILL RETALIATE. WE WILL FORCE THEM TO HEAR US. COMMON BROTHER AND SISTER, LET US RAISE TOGETHER.
Joker says 741 days ago
We are just small guys. It is norm to us to just talking and pour frustration here. This is just a little free space we have.
Penang Speaker's Square is too far from us.
Penang Speaker's Square is too far from us.
Orangbawah says 739 days ago
nanti dulu....saya ingat semua ni NATO eja....tunjuk muka....jangan...nanti semua kena tangkap...
Ah Pek says 741 days ago
Organising road side demonstration is very difficult and is not our culture. I don't think Sakura will do that as long as they are still paying our salary. The better way to counter attack is to bring more attention to this blog. Ask all our colleagues, customers, suppliers, vendors and well as media reporters to highlight our plight.
Ah Pek says 741 days ago
Only if we get enough public attention, the big boss will get serious with us.
Orangbawah says 739 days ago
public attention?....tak payah lo....sudah ada supplier talipon minta duit.....takut sakura global bungkus...
SoCalledLawyer says 738 days ago
Do you know why your company is not giving VSS? They told you the company has no money, right?
FYI, before implementing Voluntary Separation Scheme (VSS), the companies need to get approval from the government. One of the criteria the government considers in approving VSS is that the company is not making or losing money for a long period of time. By doing this, the government can ensure that the companies are not using VSS for their selfish gain.
Is your company losing money for a long period of time?
FYI, before implementing Voluntary Separation Scheme (VSS), the companies need to get approval from the government. One of the criteria the government considers in approving VSS is that the company is not making or losing money for a long period of time. By doing this, the government can ensure that the companies are not using VSS for their selfish gain.
Is your company losing money for a long period of time?
TheSaints says 734 days ago
In fact Sakura Global is making money since the inception 18 years except 1 year we are losing money. What ever said and done synergy is making money for many years doing TRADING BUSINESS and SOME O&M PROJECT. I remember about 5 years ago when Sakura have a VSS they did informed the government and not long after that we got a billion dollar contract and the birth of SST. During the VSS almost none of synergy staff got the VSS although all opted for the VSS. Maybe this is another way of getting contract from government by putting staff in the front line to be slaughter and the effect MORE GOVERNMENT CONTRACT! Just guessing might be wrong or right depending who is reading it.
Ah Pek says 733 days ago
The Saints, maybe this exactly their strategy. Since Sakura is working on 1Gov; another billion dollar project, who knows the boss is trying to use the same strategy to get project from the govt. Again using the staffs as the bargaining chip. If the govt don't award 1Gov to Sakura, we had no choice but to cut staffs.
Ah Pek says 733 days ago
Anyway, even Sakura get big projects they will still fire their staffs. Maybe delay 1 or 2 years. Just take a look at GIRN. By the time sakura make the money, they will still get rid of us. This is Sakura. The company that care for the public, care for the society!
Slave Driver says 738 days ago
You know the management is herding and pushing you (with PIP, PAP, PEP, POP etc) into a 'bungkus' cliff and you have seen some of your members committed harakiri before even reaching it.
And while we are sharing infomation, chatting and letting go some steam, I can't help feeling fustrated that you are also loosing valuable time to get your act together to face the management professionally.
Ladies and gentlemen, are you not trained professionals? Then why do you allow your management to treat you like dirt? After all, like so many have said/implied, you are just doing your job here and NOT CHEATING!
If the failure is with DrCheat and his reporting officer (ie. coo were sleeping on his job - controlling), then the failure should rightly be hung on their names. They are the ones that should bungkus themselves. Not you, the innocent professionals.
I think you should take SoCalledLawyer's advice seriously. I would go further (hey I am doing my job to push you like a SlaveDriver ok) to visit the IR office now to seek their advice and draw their attention and monitor your case.
'Sound of craking a whip!'
And while we are sharing infomation, chatting and letting go some steam, I can't help feeling fustrated that you are also loosing valuable time to get your act together to face the management professionally.
Ladies and gentlemen, are you not trained professionals? Then why do you allow your management to treat you like dirt? After all, like so many have said/implied, you are just doing your job here and NOT CHEATING!
If the failure is with DrCheat and his reporting officer (ie. coo were sleeping on his job - controlling), then the failure should rightly be hung on their names. They are the ones that should bungkus themselves. Not you, the innocent professionals.
I think you should take SoCalledLawyer's advice seriously. I would go further (hey I am doing my job to push you like a SlaveDriver ok) to visit the IR office now to seek their advice and draw their attention and monitor your case.
'Sound of craking a whip!'
Slave Driver says 738 days ago
Correction: last para before the whip.
I mean you should visit IR office.
I mean you should visit IR office.
SakuraMan says 733 days ago
My opion the managment think we all are not worthy regardless if you are associated with DrCheat or not. The just want to have a clean cut and let the new grass grow. Easier to manage young grass than old dogs as the saying goes "it is harder to teach old dog a new trick..."
Retard says 737 days ago
ask not what your sakura can do for you - ask what you can do for your sakura. Put your minds together and THINK! THINK! THINK!
Joker says 737 days ago
Ask what sakura will do to the unscrupulous leaders. Ask what the unscrupulous leaders will do to the staffs. Make up your mind and QUICK! QUICK! QUICK!
SakuraMan says 733 days ago
No need to ask just give them some more show cause letter will do. Keep them busy while thinking what to do next
Ah Pek says 719 days ago
Breaking news. TT Lee got heart attacked last night and is currently admited to hospital.
Ah Pek says 719 days ago
If he actually take legal action against the company and think Sakura will be in deep shit. First the company give so much pressure till he turned coco. Now he even got a heart attacked. This is all documented.
Joker says 719 days ago
The situation is so unacceptable until now. They done it to Francis during Sakura Marketing time, now they do it to TT Lee. I sincerely hope TT Lee is all well. If they keep pushing it, I don't think TT Lee is the last one in hospital.
They are turning Sakura as Foxconn in China. 13 workers were committed suicide in Foxconn.
Sakura Global is like pressure cooker to the staffs right now. Many will turn haywire in the coming months.
Running around like a chicken without a head
They are turning Sakura as Foxconn in China. 13 workers were committed suicide in Foxconn.
Sakura Global is like pressure cooker to the staffs right now. Many will turn haywire in the coming months.
Running around like a chicken without a head
X-man says 719 days ago
Whatever happened in Sakura Global? Just find the main culprits and take proper action against them. Why punish everyone? Is it worth just trying to save some money to sacrifice people lives?
Just pay compensation to those innocents and let them go on with their lives. I think those innocents just need some months of buffer in case they can't find a new job.
They just trying to survive for goodness sick.
Just pay compensation to those innocents and let them go on with their lives. I think those innocents just need some months of buffer in case they can't find a new job.
They just trying to survive for goodness sick.
Ah Pek says 719 days ago
Sakura may have save some money by not paying VSS/MSS but the money save is nothing compare with the damage done to the "SAKURA" name, the most valuable asset in this organisation. All of us here are using "SAKURA" instead of the real name because we still have some respect to Tan Sri & Puan Sri. But this respect is slowly overcome anger and hatre.
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Ah Pek says 719 days ago
In case you guys haven't been informed, Cherlyn, Kamarul, Asri, Hazlina, Veera & the whole of Sakura Imaging are classified as underperformers. They will be given 3 months to improve under the Performance Improvement Plan (PIP). If they fail to improve, the will advise to resign or risk being sack.
Soleader says 718 days ago
I heard Sakura Imaging people resigned and joining DrCheat with 20% pay increase. The best part is DrCheat's son is working from inside to pursuit the staffs to jump ship.
The smart management here can't do a thing to stop. Or they purposely let these people so no need to pay them compensation.
Also heard Imaging got a big contract but seem like no one will deliver or support the contract again. Let wait for customer complaint again.
The smart management here can't do a thing to stop. Or they purposely let these people so no need to pay them compensation.
Also heard Imaging got a big contract but seem like no one will deliver or support the contract again. Let wait for customer complaint again.
Ah Pek says 719 days ago
As I commenting in this blog, I need to recall how the company treat us. It leave me with a lot of anger and hatre, I worry I will turn crazy just like TT Lee. I need a break to relax my mind and at the same time give a chance to the management to react.
Ah Pek says 718 days ago
Do you guys notice the Performance Management result that you are ask to sign off has a column name "Moderation"? This "moderation" is for the company to adjust your PMS score according to their liking. KC writen to Hong to seek clarification on how is this moderation being compute and Hong said he know nothing about this and ask KC to ask HR.
Ah Pek says 718 days ago
KC writen to Khalid for clarification and Khalid replied to say is open for discussion. KC reply back to Khalid to say he prefer a written reply so that he can share with his colleagues. Let guess how Khalid will reply.
Ah Pek says 718 days ago
Sakura think that they can "moderate" the score as they wish and ask the staff to sign off their livelihood. Dear colleagues, please clarify everything you sign. Sakura may use this to go against you later. But all is not lost, if you already sign something, remember to send an email to your friends/colleagues to mentioned that you sign that document under duress. This will help a lot when your lawyer need to use it later.
Orangbawah says 718 days ago
alamak...saya sudah sign lah....score saya kena moderate dari 3 ke 2....matilah saya....
Soleader says 718 days ago
Wondering how many people still working for DrCheat and drawing a salary from Sakura.
DrCheat is really outsmart them even he is suspended. Maybe he should be our COO. Come to think of it, better not, he may suggest renovate our Sakura HQ building in Mines by spending more millions.
DrCheat is really outsmart them even he is suspended. Maybe he should be our COO. Come to think of it, better not, he may suggest renovate our Sakura HQ building in Mines by spending more millions.
Joker says 718 days ago
You are so right soleader. That DrCheat sipped blood from them and use that blood to hit them. He definitely outsmart all of them. The most amazing thing is they seeing him sipping their blood but do nothing about it.
Sakurastaff says 712 days ago
Chew and Chong resigned already. They also see no future in this company. Unsung workers and contributed so many years. So many managers in and out but they really can't take it this time.
Sakurastaff says 712 days ago
Never seen anything like this b4. So many people are left from the most senior management down to the executive and non-exec levels. Global is really wounded this time.
Ah Pek says 712 days ago
Everyone is leaving. The company is not doing anything to retain or replace the people but doing everything to get more people leave. How is the company going to support existing customers. How can TM bare with this? Our SLA is breaking record everyday, I meant new low!
Ah Pek says 712 days ago
DRAAB said business as usual. Maybe he meant, let the customers complaint and we run our business as usual. We usually do not meet customers SLA.
Joker says 711 days ago
How to meet SLA? Staffs trying their best to serve customers with least support from the company. Claims delay, travel RQ take years to approve, suppliers credit hold, PMcare suspended, low salary, worry about the PMS and PIP.
So many things to worry, how can they serve the customers full heartedly?
Sakura new motto:
You can't sick, you can't stop, you better don't screw up. But you can leave .
So many things to worry, how can they serve the customers full heartedly?
Sakura new motto:
You can't sick, you can't stop, you better don't screw up. But you can leave .
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X-man says 712 days ago
The result is so pathetic. Who want to do biz with company with this vote stat?
Joker says 711 days ago
The human bonding between the management and the staffs is destroyed completely. They used the machinery processes instead of human bonding.
If you want to work, follow the processes. Novermind the business urgency and creativity.
If you want to work, follow the processes. Novermind the business urgency and creativity.
TheSaints says 711 days ago
Dengar we have some money to pay microsoft as they have quite a number of order pendingin. Not sure about the rest of suppliers. Now the hot thing is all the A products. Don't know what got them to change their mind to concentrate on these 3 products.
Sakurastaff says 710 days ago
They are NOT changing their mind. They just realised after not paying to suppliers, suppliers ceased the supply and sued sakura, and customers complained and some even planning to sue sakura. They have to swallow their ego now and fulfill. Pay some respect to the suppliers especially if you own people money, treat them like our partners. If you think you are so good, produce it yourself lah. OR stopping selling their products lah.
Yes, go follow COO's vision. Focus on own IP and high VA. But why COO ask Fadzil to continue to trade IT biz now? Swallow his own ego again.
Fadzil is such a good trader that he can even turn high-VA deal to pure trading deal.
Don't be fooled by their actions. They just scared-shit to handle all the customer complaints now.
Yes, go follow COO's vision. Focus on own IP and high VA. But why COO ask Fadzil to continue to trade IT biz now? Swallow his own ego again.
Fadzil is such a good trader that he can even turn high-VA deal to pure trading deal.
Don't be fooled by their actions. They just scared-shit to handle all the customer complaints now.
TheSaints says 710 days ago
I don't think it is ego. Probably to protect his ass. When there is number coming he is safe for a while
Frogman says 710 days ago
Fadzil is just another puppet to COO. Who is the best candidate and will do anything if told? Of course the show-caused and warned Fadzil.
Sakurastaff says 710 days ago
It is a redemption act. BTW, what is Fadzil's PMS score after moderation?
TheSaints says 710 days ago
A puppet or terminator? Look like more of a terminator than puppet. Smart guy don't kill people he uses other people to kill so that his hand is clean after all F already been show-caused it is like asking an inmate to do a dirty job like John Ramboo in Ramboo movie. In return after the job he will be a free man. Good conspiracy theory?
X-man says 706 days ago
It is a deadlock situation. The staffs cannot win but they have no choice but hang on until they find a new job.
Thiruselvam K says 705 days ago
Hi Guys and Gals, so many vacancies in KL and you guys cry here for nothing. All this washing of dirty linen in public, will do no good. Wake up and get out. I know of a good local office now training entrepreneurs. Send them your details to P O BOX 1120, Jln Semangat, 46870 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Good luck.
David says 705 days ago
How the company treats you?
1. Depends on who you are.
2. Depends if you know the top, the top knows you
and likes you.
It no matter if you work hard, you have to pretend
you work hard and the top knows about it. Working hard is stupid, the way is to work smart, or be a snake.
Honesty, humble does not work here.
1. Depends on who you are.
2. Depends if you know the top, the top knows you
and likes you.
It no matter if you work hard, you have to pretend
you work hard and the top knows about it. Working hard is stupid, the way is to work smart, or be a snake.
Honesty, humble does not work here.
Orangbawah says 705 days ago
u humble...boss buli u....u tak humble...staff buli u....apa company ni?
David says 705 days ago
Sorry, off topic....
The company treats me....... hot too bad nor not too good.
Nothing exciting.
The company treats me....... hot too bad nor not too good.
Nothing exciting.
X-man says 705 days ago
Old sakura was so exciting and dynamic. Sakura today is boring and so un-Malaysia. They lost their uniqueness and so typical.
Staffmarah says 703 days ago
Berapa lama lagi claim boleh dapat? Satu bulan ada, tiga bulan ada, ada yg sampai enam bulan.
The company treat me.......not to good. Not we like to complain, but pocket memang kosong.
Gaji tak naik tak apa, tapi claim tu duit kami. You boss memang tak rasa, tapi perut ku ni memang berasa.
The company treat me.......not to good. Not we like to complain, but pocket memang kosong.
Gaji tak naik tak apa, tapi claim tu duit kami. You boss memang tak rasa, tapi perut ku ni memang berasa.
Kukuru says 701 days ago
My Company does so much goodness in me... it gaves me shelter for 8-hours, goal to accomplish, reason to wake up in the morning, salary to help me exist, sheltered with different types of people, i call them corporate friends at first and later discover who is real(who i treasure) and who is not (treat them as if they don't exist or just work with them professionally). It gave me chance to travel around the country. Thanks to the Company I am for 13 long years.
BUT not the people who are managing and leading it... they come and go...different style, different views, some are pain in the ass and some are so inspiring and learned a lot from them. The tasks they asked me to do gave me so much stressed and that's the reason I have time to blog, cause I asked for a long break bec I am slowly losing my interest and i dont want my company to get hurt paying me doing nothing.... huhuhu i miss my company and the salary i got from it (though it doesn't commensurate with my performance).
I miss working!
I have nothing against my company but the with other Bosses! LOL
BUT not the people who are managing and leading it... they come and go...different style, different views, some are pain in the ass and some are so inspiring and learned a lot from them. The tasks they asked me to do gave me so much stressed and that's the reason I have time to blog, cause I asked for a long break bec I am slowly losing my interest and i dont want my company to get hurt paying me doing nothing.... huhuhu i miss my company and the salary i got from it (though it doesn't commensurate with my performance).
I miss working!
I have nothing against my company but the with other Bosses! LOL
David says 697 days ago
Lastest rec e-mail (most may have rec and read).
Dear Sir,
We the general workers at SSM feel very sad and down, this is because currently we did not received or salary.
From the word we hear there is money in the bank but being hold by Aliza due to want to pay vendor and make us at SSM feel suffer by not received salary.
Why she do like that, she should be profesional, she should not complaint receiving when extra work without extra allowance as we here in SSM doing MULTITASKING for long time already.
and we also are not able to use our medical benefit as the PM care have been block.
We do not wish to complaint about Aliza but feeling SAD, DOWN and DEMOTIVATED due to her action. We hope you understand our feeling.
Regards,
General Worker SSM
cc: Tan Sri, Datuk Shahril, Datuk, Rodzlan, Kamaliah, Khalid
Dear Sir,
We the general workers at SSM feel very sad and down, this is because currently we did not received or salary.
From the word we hear there is money in the bank but being hold by Aliza due to want to pay vendor and make us at SSM feel suffer by not received salary.
Why she do like that, she should be profesional, she should not complaint receiving when extra work without extra allowance as we here in SSM doing MULTITASKING for long time already.
and we also are not able to use our medical benefit as the PM care have been block.
We do not wish to complaint about Aliza but feeling SAD, DOWN and DEMOTIVATED due to her action. We hope you understand our feeling.
Regards,
General Worker SSM
cc: Tan Sri, Datuk Shahril, Datuk, Rodzlan, Kamaliah, Khalid
Frogman says 697 days ago
Oh no. Susah already. Lagi pikin lagi teruk. Ape macam ni?
Tell me who you go with and I'll tell you who you are.
Tell me who you go with and I'll tell you who you are.
Joker says 697 days ago
That evil Dr.Cheat really dig a big enough hole for global and sst. They all stupid enough to jump into the hole and continue digging. Now, no one can climb out from this deep hole now.
Joker says 697 days ago
“Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet in the hole.”
SHAZIDA KHATUN says 446 days ago
An Employer or company will treat you with good nature as much as you are doing hard work in favor of the institution or individual or company.
Frogman says 339 days ago
VSS only for those they want to get rid off. Once other projects ended, they will get rid of the rest.
Dui Geng Foo says 324 days ago
mine one is the family business... so what do you think if you work in this kind of company?
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