Suraj Vibhute
What is your opinion that
Human is meat-eater or non meat-eater?
Please tell me seriously don't make it joke.
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Human is meat-eater or non meat-eater?
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Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Omnivores. Why limit your diet to meat alone? Has anyone in history ever done that? Meat is just another element to a balanced diet including fruit, vegetables, grains, etc.
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
You can say it, but that doesn't make it true. I respect your opinion and your lifestyle choice, but I don't agree with it. If you'd like evidence (real, biological evidence) as to why humans are omnivorous, I'd be glad to provide it.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
I dont know how detail you are but there are meat eating animals, plant eating animals and animals that require meat and plants. Yes humans are animals because we are not plants and we are not bacteria. We as the human race need both, people who eat only one kind come to have problems so they need to take pills. So yes if you want to take pills then you can be one kind. It also maybe true that only meat people dont live as long and only plant people live the longest and normal is in the middle but I could not eat only plants. People who eat only plants fellow this path normally due so to not have animals die. Only meat people tend to fellow this path due to not liking the taste of plants. This is why when you order a burger there is lettuce and stuff like that in there. So there you go we are what bruno said we are and if you fight it your taking pills.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
hmm according to my knowledge
the difference between meateater and non meateater:
1. The non-meateaters’ offspring have their eyes open at the time of birth, like our children have, while the meat-eaters’ offsprings have their eyes closed at the time of birth.
2. The non-meateaters drink water by their lips, like we do, while the meat-eaters drink by their tongue.
3. Meat-eaters’ stomach is highly acidic to digest meat easily; stomach of non-meat-eaters and man is alkaline to digest carbohydrates easily.
4. Like this the saliva of non-meat-eaters and man is alkaline, while that of the meat-eaters is acidic.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
5. Structure of teeth of man is similar to that of the non-meateaters. They are primarily flat molars to bite and grind the plant food, but are different from the long canines of meat-eaters meant for catching and killing the pray, and biting and tearing the flesh
6. Jaws of meat-eaters open wide to capture and grab the prey, but don’t move sideways, however, the jaws of non-meateaters, and also man, don’t open wide enough but moves sideways to grind the plant food.
7. meat-eaters have long and sharp claws; non-meateaters and man have no claws.
8. Meat-eaters have a strong sense of smell and their eyes can see in darkness too for catching the prey. Man and non-meateaters have relatively weaker sense of smell and sight.
9. Meat-eaters’ voice has generally a heavy accent and unpleasant. The voice of man and non-meateaters bears a lighter accent.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
10. last but most acceptable example:
Let us imagine two small children (say, about 2 years in age). If the first child given an apple and second one a small rabbit, we wonder what would the children do once they are hungry. Assuming that the children had never seen an apple or a rabbit in past, respectively. The first may being to eat the apple after while. The question is: what would the second child do with the rabbit. Let us assume that the rabbit is tied by means of string such that the child can get very close to the rabbit and after some time when mutual trust and love develops, he can even touch it. Once he too is hungry, he may ask for food or would he ask for the rabbit to be killed and cooked for his meal. Even if he belongs to a family of meat-eater parents.
These all examples prove that human is non-meateater.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Aug, 10
@Saliha
*First: You just explained about the teeth but what about the eyes at the time of birth, claws, drinking style, jaw structure etc?
*Second: You gave reference of Manusmriti, but I have to mention here that Manusmriti is not accepted by most of Hindus who know whole history and Sanskrit.
Main cause of rejecting Manu Smriti by the VHP appears mainly due to the presence of large scale interpolations in it. Such a case is not only in Manu Smriti, but also in other smrities, Puranas and other ancient Hindu scriptures except the Vedas.
Context: “The Vishwa Hindu Parishad totally rejects the Manu Smriti as it has no place in a civilized society.” (Hindu Voice, May, 2006, p. 43).
MS is the earliest Smriti than that of Mahabharata as there are several shlokas of MS in the Mahabharata.
But no one can refuse The Vedas, they are universally accepted by Hindus and I can assure you that you can’t find something like you gave in example in Vedas.
*And last
In fact the whole argument about plants being similar to animals is just a distraction and an attempt to justify meat eating and cruelty against innocent animals. Nature/God has designed human body and this universe so perfectly that all humans love and like plant foods without exception and they are grown or possible to grow abundantly and cheaply to feed entire man kind rich or poor.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Thats random your problem is your comparing us to somthing we are not. We are nether yet we are both at the same time. Ok Go ahead eat only one kind let it be meat or plant I dont care and if you do not have the help of modern medicine I can tell you that you will fail and get sick.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
You are confusing me or confused your self. I didn't got your medicine concept here.
Because I am only asking Humans is meat-eater or not?
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
We are not only meat So I guess we are not in your confuse little world. I gave you the facts and you fail to realize it. The best way to learn is to read the facts and if you cant make your self to do that you may then experiment. There is a reason man kind has made these pills. To make it possible for people to pick a side rather that be all plant or all meat. If you cant realizes this now we can assure you that the out come of your experiment will meet the same results as the facts. I dont recommend doing the experiment at all cause you will end up sick but you wont accept the facts there for we can not help.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
with out help yes it is. People who due it take pills so they can and they may have a longer life as well.
Mulan ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Dreamy.. - how long have you been practicing that? eversince? - just curious.. -
I tried doing that.. - just didn't work out.. I mean I could sustain myself not have meat for at week. But I got to have
them at least once a month..
Seafoods, veggies , alcohol and coffee
are my usual diet :)
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
@Mulan
Ha, don't worry dear. In India many people can live without meat for whole life without any pills :D
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
The reason we eat meat is for protein so only plant people need protein pills. With out protein you will have muscle degrading.
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
It's not just protein. It's calories. You can get the energy you need to get through the day without having to eat a truckload of grass.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
So after a work out you would eat 15 of them? Just = the amount you need after a workout?
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
The U.S. government officially recommends that our protein intake should be somewhere between 10 and 35% of total calories consumed.
It is extremely difficult to consume more than 20% of total calories from protein, however, unless you are following a strict regimen of refined protein powder and egg whites. Currently fewer than 5% of Americans eat more than 21% of their calories from protein, with the average ranging from 10 to 21%.
Despite the advertising hype of the meat and dairy industries, humans require an extraordinarily low amount of protein in their diets.
Sudheera ∙ 13 Apr, 10
early man was meat eater as he was uncivilized .....aft tht humanity developed...bt we hav to agree tht our ancestors were meat eaters.....bt nw a days there r veg nd non-veg ppl...... equally...so can't decide!!!!!!!
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Incorrect. Early man was a forager. We were near the bottom of the food chain. Then we learned about agriculture and eventually how to farm animals. Eating meat was an adaptation that came later.
Sudheera ∙ 13 Apr, 10
@Bruno i agree tht im nt as educate as u...huh im also not a dull....kk... i donno y u always ty to point out others ..... if we c in outer look then wat i gav z also correct....plz don ty to point out ppl.....
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
You can't be correct and incorrect. Civilized man ate meat. The earliest humans were foragers. I didn't mean to sound insulting. Please don't take my comment as such. But there is correct information and incorrect information. You can say that it is uncivilized to kill animals, and that may be your belief. I will have no argument with that. You are free to believe whether I agree or not.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
and even for body builders 10% is more than enuf....also every plant that we consume has proteins...so it meets our requirement
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Are you talking about meat or protein? Most bodybuilders injest up to 150 grams of protein per day depending on their size and dietary need. Also, they drink protein shakes. Many of those shakes contain whey protein which is isolated from milk.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
also proteins are made of amino acids which can be combined in the body to different proteins...and so their is no specific protein that we need from animal sources...my friend we can make all the proteins in our body by a complex mechanism that needs dna, rna various enzymes n amino acids
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
The point is you should not need to eat what you like and use healthy food to balance it right. If you want fast food all the time then your going to need alot vegges.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
The point is you should not need to decide. eat what you like and use healthy food to balance it right. If you want fast food all the time then your going to need alot vegges.
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Are plants not as innocent as animals? One of my favorite quotes is this:
"A vegetarian just kills things that can't run away."
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
You are quite incorrect on many of your points.
1 - Many mammals are like this. Eyes open or not. Pigs are omnivores. Most canine species are omnivores, while most felines are carnivores. What about chimpanzees (humanities closest primate relative)? They are omnivorous.
2 - What about bears? There are bears that eat plants and bears that eat meat. They drink with their lips. This is no indication of diet.
3 - The human stomach is highly acidic. We have multiple acids and enzymes which control the pH in various parts of our digestive tract. Gastric acid has a pH of about 2-3 in the human stomach. The mucus lining of your digestive tract is what prevents the acid from eating away at your own tissue. Strict vegetarian animals have the ability to break down cellulose. Humans have a very minimal ability to break down cellulose (otherwise known as dietary fiber). It is generally used to aid in excretion.
4 - Your saliva is only very slightly alkaline when you are not eating. Many people mistake the alkalinity of blood with digestive requirements. The proper pH for saliva is 6.5-7.5. That means it can range from slightly acidic to slightly alkaline (7 being neutral). The normal pH range for blood is 7.35 - 7.45. Above 7.45 is called alkalosis, while below is called acidosis. It's better to be worried about the after effects of what you eat. Whether the byproduct of digestion of a particular food is acidic or alkaline. Orange juice, for example, is highly acidic. After digestion, however, it becomes alkaline in the blood. Therefore, if you eat something that creates a highly acidic environment, you can balance it with some orange juice.
5 - Our teeth our examples of both. Our front teeth our designed to tear into flesh and fruit, while our back teeth are designed to grind it up. Strict herbivores have completely flat teeth, while strict carnivores have puncturing/tearing teeth. Apes with the largest canines have the strictest vegetarian diets. A bit of a contradiction, no?
6 - Again, just another example of how we are a combination of meat and plant eaters.
7 - These are predatory adaptations. Humans learned to use tools and make weapons. We had no need to develop claws and talons. Again, look at the chimpanzee and pig.
8 - Again, these are simply natural adaptations to environment. If humans had needed to evolve better sight and smell, we would have.
9 - I'm not quite sure what this means. A lot of birds have pretty annoying voices, while household cats sound cute.
10 - Mammalian children require their parents to take care of them. I ate rabbit when I was two, but it was prepared by my parents. Just like the apple was planted, grown, and picked by my parents. Birds, for example, require that their parent chew their food for them.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
That type huh. Dont go into that man I can realy get into that and you would not be wanting to eat meat or plants. Its an eat or be eaten world. Do you think the bear care if that fish is innocent? Is that berry any less innocent then the fish? If a ant can think can a plant or a tree think?
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
ya u can eat wat u want...i personally dont have a problem...but i want to say that its not necessary to have meat to lead a healthy life....u can be a "healthy vegetarian" too, so killing animals is not required
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
I have yet to meet a healthy vegetarian without the need for supplementation.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
hmmm...."A vegetarian just kills things that can't run away."....boy u r giving me food for thought!!!
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
I thought it was an interesting quote when I read it a few years ago. I can't remember who said it, though.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Ok well the animal is dead at the store. You just need to buy it. So farmer can make money and feed his family. So they can live.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
have u ever seen an animal being butchered...its bad really...that look in the animals eye...i dont think anyone can bear that
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
I used to kill them myself. This is the main problem many people have with killing animals. Animals have cute, fuzzy faces. You can't eat things you care about.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
In fact the whole argument about plants being similar to animals is just a distraction and an attempt to justify meat eating and cruelty against innocent animals. Nature/God has designed human body and this universe so perfectly that all humans love and like plant foods without exception and they are grown or possible to grow abundantly and cheaply to feed entire man kind rich or poor.
The true human ingenuity is in creating new innovative preparations from grains, milk, fruits, vegetable and other produce of vegetable kingdom such as spices, herbs etc. There is no ingenuity in consuming meat, its expensive to produce and extremely harmful for the environment as evidenced in the 2007 United Nations report on Climate Change and must be eliminated from human diet.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Yea its called survival. I probably could not do it as of now but hey I dont need to its done. Im glad we have a choice to be a butcher or a salesman dont you?
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
* Vegetarians live longer and suffer less from diseases such as hypertension, obesity, coronary artery disease, certain kinds of cancer and diabetes. Vegetarian diets can even be used to treat illnesses.
* While 750 million people go to bed hungry every night, one-third of the world’s grain is fed to farmed animals. A typical Western meat-based diet can only feed 2.5 billion people: a plant-based diet will feed every one of us.
* Animals that are reared on the farms produce huge amount of excreta (130 times more than the human population) that pollutes our environment. Methane from livestock causes global warming; soil is eroded by cattle; slurry poisons waterways; and the seas are laid to waste by overfishing. The global appetite for meat and the industrial techniques of the meat industry are destroying the Earth.
* Also you can save your self from a large number of diseases that can spread from farm animals to humans, such as bird flu, Taenia infection etc....
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
*Vegetarians typically suffer from anemia. This leads to low blood count, immunocompromisation, Gaucher disease, fatigue, and more. My wife was a vegetarian for six years and developed breast cancer. No one in her family has a history of cancer, and she tested negative for genetic markers.
Everyone is different. I think people should figure out what works for them and just do that.
Normal Borlaug, the "father of the green revolution", has said that organic farming would only be able to feed about 4 billion people. We are a global population of 7 billion and growing. Plant-based dieting isn't the sole solution.
You would only be able to save yourself from things like bird flu if you killed all the birds on the planet. The better way to save yourself from disease is to practice good hygiene.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
okay...i havent heard of vegetarians suffering from anaemia more...n i have just done a post on breast cancer...consulted a few books n net...cudnt get anything related to the link b/w plants n breast cancer....can u give me the link of the page where u read this...please. it wud help me increase my knowledge
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Vegetarians are generally at risk or suffer from iron-deficiency anemia. There's is a lot of information on that subject. Vegetarians are also at higher risk of osteoporosis due to lack of calcium, rickets in children from Vitamin D deficiency, Vitamin B12 deficiency, slow-growth or emaciation in children, and more. There are lacto-vegetarian diets and lacto-ovo-vegetarian diets which help.
Normal Borlaug, the "father of the green revolution", has said that organic farming can only sustain a population of about 4 billion. A combination of plants, terrestrial and sea animals will feel every one of us.
How can you be against killing animals, but then suggest that they are polluting the environment? The only way to solve that is by not allowing them to live. They'll pollute the planet whether they are on farms or not. We could substitute farmed animals for all the useless, endangered animals we keep trying to save.
Diseases generally spread from hygiene issues. I can give you a salad full of poisonous plants. If you don't recognize those plants, you'd die from eating it.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Lets just break it down to the fundamental level. If is alive it can think. People for eat plants need more protein the people who eat both or people who eat only meat. People who only eat meat dont live very long and need alot more pills then the others. People who eat both dont need any form of medicine to survive. So what do you think is NORMAL. The one who needs pills or dose not.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
huh, what are u saying?
"People who eat both dont need any form of medicine to survive"
This is not true firstly.
and secondly You have to check that vegetarians don't require pills if they eat properly and do exercise daily.
You are misleading the truth.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
No Im not misleading. So your telling me every plant eater I have ever meet in my whole life has done it wrong? Im sure your misleading.
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
@Josh: I think you mean supplementation. Everybody needs medicine at one point or another.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
i am a vegetarian...a wud be doctor. n i dont take any pills
n i have never consulted a physician for any major problem. i am healthy.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Thats not a point, that you are healthy or not, so for your desires and installments you can kill innocents huh?
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
ya u can be...that is wat i am saying...u can be healthy being a vegetarian tooo....so why eat meat. it has drawbacks in long run...more than the ppl who are on plant diet.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Ok so when I get in the navy I will see if they offer vegetarian food. lol. That would be a stretch. lol.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
You are not understanding what we are talking you always create new issue rather than talking on this topic.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Yes I do understand what we are talking about. I have ZERO problems eating a fish. I have zero problems eating meat.I rather an animal die then a human being. I guess your more advance then the rest of us.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
No means I dont have a problem with it. If I wanted to go vegetarian I could but I like meat it taste good.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
ohhh u r going in navy....my boy friend is in indian army...captain. he was a non vegetarian but now he is vegetarian...works out in gym. plays games...basket ball n squash. n has no problems. his health hasnt gone down.
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Well we all have are own life styles and depending where we are is how we eat. I think that what the problem. It's location.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Not at all, don't push it on location. We know foods and plants are every where. We humans not used them properly bcos of animals.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
lets not go on this us indian thing....okay. u love ur country i love mine. DONT GO ON WHO IS BETTER THING OKAY...stay to the topic...
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
lol. Well its not that. Its whos around us all are life we will grow up being. If you grow up being what you are Im al for it. I think there no solution for a perfect culture. Even then there are problems.
Dreamy Eyed Girl ∙ 13 Apr, 10
okay...now wat u said is okay...meat can help sustain in the cold conditions....i agree
Josh Soderling ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Anyone has skype I think we can come up with an agreement faster. I mean Im not here to step on any toes. Like I said it all falls back to culture.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Bruno
*So you are giving list huh, then the list for meat is so big as compared to your. You can't say that the cancer occurred due to plants.
*you are saying we have not sufficient food huh so wasting time, money and space for growing innocent animals and killing them huh as well as pollution.
It will be better to use this spaces for growing plants than animals.
*And remaining Bird flue huh, first tell me why its spreading due to poultry farms. If we were not meat or chicken eaters then the spread of Bird flue not would not happen like today.
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
You can say that the cancer occurred for many different reasons. One of which could have been malnutrition form an unbalanced diet.
Animals provide more calories than plants. So, you don't like killing innocent animals, but would be willing to let them go extinct to grow more plants?
It's spreading due to poultry farms b/c of hygiene. You don't get bird flu from eating birds. Once you cook it, the virus is killed. You get it from living birds.
There are more plants in the world that will kill you if you eat them than animals. This doesn't mean we should avoid plants. If animals cause pollution than people should stop trying to save useless ones like pandas.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
*so you are denoting mercy for that animals huh so packing them in that places and then killing for your pleasure. what a love! This is not natural way for existing animals at all.
*But first reason it the polutry farms not your eating bcos you grow that birds for ur appetite. so bird flu is spreading.
* Hey you are misleading this point also, I am telling that what aboout that botcher factories huh making pollution. what about that waste created at the time of making meat.
Is this not a pollution huh?
Plution from meat and saving panda are totally two different things.
don't mix them.
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Killing for my pleasure? You are mistaking pleasure for nutrition. I don't kill an animal with a big smile on my face. I am thankful for the animal's existence and sacrifice b/c it will provide me with nutrition.
It's not natural? Do lions eat berries and leaves? Whales eat scores of fish in one bite. It's completely natural. One thing must eat another to survive. Life and death is connected to everything in a large circle.
No, the reason is that people didn't use proper hygiene when handling their birds. My family raises chickens. We've never gotten bird flu. In fact, the chickens gets vaccinated for disease. You can get bird flu from a wild bird if you happen to come in contact with it. Also, you're misunderstanding what avian flu is. Typically, diseases do not cross species. For example, if I get sick, I do not need to quarantine myself from my conure. The avian flu is a mutated influenza strain that learned to infect other species. This is not the fault of farming. It's evolution of a virus.
What about the burning of crops to prepare the land for farming? What about the massive machines required to farm in large scale? How do plant such large farms? How do you maintain such large farms? Tillage? Pest control? Water management? Distribution? It goes both ways. No one way is perfect. There must always be balance.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Same question for you do goat eat meat huh? and what a great sacrifice. sry for you.
Second point I donno why raising this point again and again in this topic.
And third point totally worthless to answer. because now you are asking something that no one will agree. ha
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 13 Apr, 10
No. Goats eat plants. Then something else eats the goat. And so on and so forth. See how the circle works?
That's fine. People don't have to agree. We live in a diverse world with many opinions and beliefs. We don't all have to agree with each other. We just have to be able to live together. :o)
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Lets stop this discussion, we are going off topic. now let other people reply on this subject.
Mulan ∙ 13 Apr, 10
Ahmmm.. hmmm I could use some steak right now....
with baked potatoes and...asparagus...
Yum.. Yum..
eNewsz ∙ 10 Aug, 10
Don’t plants also experience pain when killed?
Yes, plants too experience pain when killed or when parts of it are severed. The comprehension of pain however is less than for animals. This is because the mind and intellect of a plant is rudimentary as compared to that of an animal. However, if a fruit or vegetable is plucked when it is fully ripe or has fallen from a tree, there is relatively no pain to the plant.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 10 Aug, 10
According to the ancient Vedic literature, a living being to be called so-called must have the following 6 characteristics of life none of which is found in plants:
*Ability to feel pleasure
*Ability to feel pain
*Desire
*Jealousy
*Effort
*Knowledge
Also, soul does not reside in a Plant in accordance with the Law of karma to bear the rewards of its actions or karma.
There could be an argument that Scientists believe that Plants have life since they grow over time, consume certain gases from the atmosphere and also consume water, fertilizers, sunlight etc and can also reproduce and some even believe that they can react to things like Music also.
No one disagrees with most of the above argument except that these features in plants do not necessarily establish the existence of life in them. For example, the fact that Railway engine consumes Electricity or coal and moves fast to carry us around does not mean that there is life in the Railway Engine. Rivers, Mountains and Oceans display a lot of activity, movement and creations but that does not mean they have life; precisely because they do not have any or all the six features of life mentioned above or the soul in them. Absence of soul makes them inert objects and nothing else can make them like a living being. In fact Plants grow or consume gases and reproduce due to Physical, Chemical and bio- logical reactions something so well designed by nature to aid and assist human and animal life.
eNewsz ∙ 10 Aug, 10
Dear
one question
you have two brothers
one is deaf and dump with some mental disorder, another one is active
you started to beat both of them
deaf and dump wont express his feelings
but active started to cry and try to escape even try to beat you
in this situation what you do???
like wise both plants and animals have soul
plants dont have mouth to express their feeling , but animals have
many researchers prove that plants also have sensations
but we are not able to accept the reality
big brother always win
better to read Swami vivekananthas East and West book
food habits are formed according to their habitat
kolkatta brahmins taking fish
but north Indian brahmins dont take
every thing is from our mind only
there is no sin if you taking non veg
but veg is good for stomach- easily digestible
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 10 Aug, 10
No you said something which have no basis that plants also have soul. Plants don't have soul if they have then it they will not fit in the law of Karma.
In fact the whole argument about plants being similar to animals is just a distraction and an attempt to justify meat eating and cruelty against innocent animals. Nature/God has designed human body and this universe so perfectly that all humans love and like plant foods without exception and they are grown or possible to grow abundantly and cheaply to feed entire man kind rich or poor.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 10 Aug, 10
But its not a matter of liking its a instinct that most the ppl don't like meat. Wat is your opinion on 7th, 8th and 9th reply on this discussion?
Moonomo ∙ 10 Aug, 10
Fact is a fact- even if you can't like the label. Human able to eat meat and survive eating meat only (non veg).
Moonomo ∙ 10 Aug, 10
That was to answering the question of this topic. Like Bruno said, you can survive without eating meat too (non meat).
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 10 Aug, 10
Yaa you can live but its impossible to live only by eating meat. But real question is Are we really meat eaters?
Moonomo ∙ 10 Aug, 10
What you meant by 'realy' really? Whether 'Adam & Eve' was meat-eater or not?
Of course a human could live eating meat (and definitely drinks like water).
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 10 Aug, 10
It's impossible to live by eating only plants too. The healthiest and most long-lived people have balanced diets.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 10 Aug, 10
I donno about Adam & Eve as well as I am not a supporter of Adam and Eve bcos I don't believe in the story of creation of Adam and Eve (scientifically).
Bruno Rodrigues ∙ 10 Aug, 10
I've answered this question about whether or not we're meat eaters many times. We are not. We are neither solely meat eaters nor solely plant eaters. We have evolved to be opportunistic eaters. In other words, if only one option was available to you, you could survive. Also, if there wasn't enough plant-based food to support a population, you could supplement the diet with meat and provide sufficient nutrition for everyone. Humans started off as foragers. This is evolution. From foraging, we learned agriculture. From that, we learned hunting. From both, we learned how to raise animals. The health benefit of a balanced diet is undeniable. The fact that we can eat meat and obtain nutrition from it is also undeniable. This makes us omnivores. What you choose to eat doesn't change how your body is designed. What will change is how your body adapts to your diet. Someone who has never eaten meat that decides to try it after 20-30 years is going to have digestive issues afterwards b/c their bodies are not used it. It's like when I eat Indian food and get diarrhea afterwards.
I really don't know why we're still debating this. I've countered every argument you've presented and have even agreed that people are free to eat what they want. Moral or ethical objections don't change what our bodies are naturally designed for.
Moonomo ∙ 10 Aug, 10
@Bruno- I was preparing similar reply but you did better.
@Suraj
I hope you weren't telling 'I agree with everyone but I'm right'. ;)
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 10 Aug, 10
Yep I am right according to my point of view like you think you are right according to your point of view :P
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 11 Aug, 10
Yep fark to nahi padta lekin muzse jaanvaronko tadapne dekhna accha nahi lagta isi leye to ye saval hamesh muze satata hai. :)
Jyotsna ∙ 12 Aug, 10
kuch log jaanvaronko tadapte hue dekh nahi paate so use maar dalte hein ;) hehehe
Sudheera ∙ 12 Aug, 10
wat ever u think suraj early man was a meat eater man started his journey on earth feeding on raw flesh !! bt later he developed sympathy on fellow creatures nd divided into classes like veggies nd non veggies..bt dont forget trees r lso living creatures ...
Sayyed ∙ 16 Aug, 10
huh fedup of reading i gave up, yes i eat meat each and every day dont know about how much protien and vitamin in it i love to eat meat its so tasty yummy specially beaf and fried chicken i cant live on vegitables and fruit i love meat what a taste yaar uuummmmmmmmmm yummy
Cissydette ∙ 24 Aug, 10
well, long as i don't eat my kind, i love being a meat-eater. :) an omnivore actually.
Hariharan ∙ 29 Dec, 10
Sorry I couldn't read all. Gandhiji tried to be true vegetarian by not drinking Milk and failed then he started drinking Goat milk instead of Cow milk So without animal protein man will die. God intended us to be Nonvegetarian. Read naked ape by desmond moris. We are the only apes that hunt. I think vegetarians get lots of diseases like diabetes etc.
Suraj Vibhute ∙ 29 Dec, 10
First of all milk is not a non-vegetarian food, reason is simple that every child of mammal drink the milk.
Second think I am really curious to know the scientific proof in which vegetarian are not healthy that non-vegetarian.
Hariharan ∙ 31 Jan, 11
Sorry when you take milk it contains animal protein. If you avoid milk and eat only vegetables you will die. Read gandhiji's book ok on vegetarianism
Darren Francis ∙ 31 Dec, 10
Woah. What an interesting topic. I'm a heavy meat eater and dislike the taste of most vegetables (greens) for an unknown reason. I believe its because I have a lower tolerance to the bitter taste. As a result, I dislike drinking beer as well. I do eat fruits which are ripe though.
Meat just tastes so much better for me. As much as I love pets and animals, I love eating meat too much to drop it.
With regards to health, I hardly fall sick and have not taken any day offs due to sickness for years.
As for your question. Is a Human a meat-eater or non meat-eater?
Does it matter? Do we really need to choose one side? We have evolved to be able to eat both. I don't why people don't see this as an advantage over eating just vegetables.
Hariharan ∙ 1 Feb, 11
You are not used Indian condiments in vegetable. If you just boil it probably you are right. Indian curry is famous for its tastes world over.
Darren Francis ∙ 6 Feb, 11
I'm fine with the taste of vegetarian dishes with curry. The reason is because I do like Indian curry.
Using the same curry, I think I would still prefer meat over vegetables.
Susan Banghart ∙ 31 Jan, 11
We are what we do. We are meat eaters and non meat eaters because we eat both. If we were non meat eaters we would not eat meat. I am a meat eater because I like meat.
Bootsie Walker ∙ 6 Feb, 11
I'm a vegetarian, but I don't think you can make a statement that humans are meant to be only non-meat eaters. Think about the people who live in climates with extremely short growing seasons such as the far north. They cannot survive on vegetables and rely on meat. The animals they eat ate plants and that is how those people get the nutrients others of us would get from plants. There are also people (now extinct, unfortunately) who lived in the far south such as on Tiera del Fuego who also ate mostly meat. The did forage for some plants and ate algae if forced from hunger, but the main part of their diet was meat. I think it's ethnocentric to think that all humans are meant to eat a certain way. Having said that, I do prefer a vegetarian diet and I don't eat meat.
Andrelle ∙ 2 May, 11
We are allot different from animals humans have free will and know how to "pick, choose or refuse" so answers to this question would vary seeing that we all have different opinions.
Andrelle ∙ 2 May, 11
Though I think the fitting description would be omnivours.
I'm sure we all ate some form of meat at some point in our lives even if it is that time when we mistakenly ate a fly because we left our mouth's open, or that ant on the candy stick we were unaware of. Face it they're both meat.
NewsMeBack ∙ 2 May, 11
If we look into the past, people ate meat from the beginning. Nowadays it's more matter of choice and awareness.
Kibui Moses ∙ 7 May, 11
We are meat eaters. When I was a child, I used to hunt for it; from birds, rabbits, antelopes and so on. Its delicious. To vegetarians, you don't know what you are missing.
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